and he has so much for people. and if we keep on that, then we don't have to concern ourselves too much about those who chip away from the outside. ainsley: you wrote this great book it's called "there is more." i love that there has to be more because our country is so divided. i feel that more than ever. you write the great unknown. and i have always heard don't let fear stand in the way of your destiny. if you are fearful, don't let that stop from you reaching your dreams. hill song church was berthed with absolutely no guarantees. there was no promised financial support. no guarantees people would come and no certainty in faith an jesus and confidence in his calling that god would bless this brand new little outreach church. look what god has done with your church now. why did you start hill song. >> why did we start? we started because we cared about people. and we started in the small suburb way down under in sydney, australia. that's why the way it has gone and the global -- and having churches and campuses all around the world and