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happened in the past and apply its own laws. concerning the allegations, i have stressed that no one in the new team governing ukraine had anything to do with anything that may have happened in 2016. they were making television shows at the time. i also said that it is not credible to me that former vice president biden would have been influenced anyway by financial or personal motives in carrying out his duties as vice president. a different issue is whether some individual ukrainians may have attempted to influence the 2016 election or thought they could buy influence. that is at least as possible. but the accusation vice president biden acted inappropriately, did not seem credible to me. i connected them by text and later by phone. they met in person on august 2nd 2019. in conversations with me following that meeting, which i did not attend, mr. giuliani said that he stressed the importance of the ukraine conducting investigations of what happened in the past. and he said i ....
to investigate what happened in the past and apply its own laws. no one in the new team had anything to do with anything that may have happened in 2016. they were making television shows at the time. iral i also said it is credible to me that he would have been influenced by financial or personal motives in carrying out duties as vice president. a different issue is whether some individual ukrainians may have attempted to influence the 2016 election or thought they could buy influence. that is at least plausible given ukraine s reputation for corruption. the accusation that he acted independently did not seem credible to me. i connected mayor giuliani and the aide by text lantand later t i phone. they met in person on august 2, 2019. in conversations with me following that meeting which i did not attend, mr. giuliani said that he had stressed the importance of ukraine conducting investigations into what happened in the past and mr. yermoc stressed, he said it is their position ....
an investigation on a political rival? mr. morrison? in that hypothetical, no, i don t think he should do that. yeah. and ambassador volker, i m sure you agree. yes. and the same would be true if it were a governor withholding the budget requests of the state police unless the state police agreed to conduct an investigation on a political rival. you would agree? correct. yes, sir. in your view is it any different for a member of congress? of course not, right? would you agree that the president has the same obligation as the mayor, as the governor, as the member of congress to not withhold aid unless he gets an investigation into a political rival, mr. morrison? yes, sir, i would agree with that hypothetical. i would agree. and we re having a debate here both sides as to how to read what s plainly before us. the presidential phone call where the president ignored the work of the advisers and the national security council of talking points and instead chose ....
that is correct. you explained earlier that your job in the white house was to coordinate united states and ukraine policy, is that right? it is to coordinate united states policy vis-à-vis ukraine, correct. you testified in the spring of this year that these officials, these ukrainian officials began asking you, quote, advice on how to respond to mr. giuliani s advances, end quote. is that correct? that is correct. what do you understand they meant by mr. giuliani s advances? i understood that to mean both his public commentary, so publicly calling for investigations into 2016, burisma, and hunter biden, as well as his direct overtours to the government of ukraine directly and through proxies. that s what i understood. as you understand it, under whose authority do you think mr. giuliani was acting under? congresswoman, i don t know. did the ukrainian officials you were speaking to tell you that they were being asked to i m sorry, can you say that aga ....
concerning the allegations, i stressed that no one in the new team governing ukraine had anything to do with anything that may have happened in 2016. they were making television shows at the time. i also said that it is not credible to me that former vice president biden would have been influenced in any way by financial or personal motives in carrying out his duties as vice president. a different issue is whether some individual ukrainians may have attempted to influence the 2016 election or thought they would buy influence. that is at least plausible given ukraine s reputation for corruption. but the accusation that vice president biden acted inappropriately did not seem at all credible to me. after that meeting, i connected mayor giuliani and mr. yermak by text and later by phone. they met in person on august 2nd, 2019. in conversations with me following that meeting, which i did not attend, mr. giuliani said that he had stressed the importance of ukraine conducting investi ....