interview was, rudy giuliani was running the operation of proving the election was stolen. when they made the representations in court, they weren t saying the same things they were saying in the media. the idea he did something legally to defraud the process. the only way to get to alternate electors, like a court or legislative body makes that mauve. that haven t happened since nixon versus kennedy in 1960 in hawaii. wasn t it also rudy giuliani who said, let s have trial by combat? it was. isn t that incitement? now, you re up against the first amendment issues again. is it immediate enough? is it calling for violence clearly enough? this is where it gets difficult. i think they won t touch that. they have plenty of other stuff. yeah. and quickly, the intersection between the georgia, fulton county investigation, and jack smith s investigation.
this almost look like january 6th to me. - rudy giuliani whipping up the crowd, just like he did, just like donald trump did on january 6th. - let s have trial by combat. - the most racist and denigrating language, still staying within certain boundaries, but as, you know, dog whistling at its extreme. the notion that he whipped up armed people to riot, it wasn t just to protest or chant. they ve stomped on cars. they literally were in a state of chaos. - rudy giuliani join them in that riot. it was a very, very frightening time, and it only escalated racial tensions. - i think it was a planned riot for city hall. i think that the higher ups in the police department all were in concert.
it might be the tenth paragraph by the time rudy finishes destroying his reputation. it s hard to believe. he wanted more. and so the desire to continue it, the desire to be in the limelight is something many people can t give up. after 9/11, rudy didn t only have a refurbished name and a reputation, but he had a brand. almost the moment it was over he turned around and created a consulting firm where you re selling your 9/11 bona fid ies for money. fid ies for money. - a lot of people were surprised when a later rudolph giuliani starts screaming about trial by combat. - let s have trial by combat. - that s the only rudy giuliani i know.
i was angry that, you know, that our country was attacked. and, you know, i felt like i owed a debt to my country. - every day i see that building, and it s beautiful. i never get tired of seeing it. i take pictures of it almost every day. slaves built that building. and here i am, 200 years later, a black man protecting what they built. - if we re wrong, we will be made fools of. but if we re right, a lot of them will go to jail. [cheers] so. let s have trial by combat. [cheers] - come on, keep up your courage. get up here. - they re trying to push us back; we need bodies.
- i think the truth of what happened in the 2020 election. - let s have trial by combat. - just understand this. all hell is going to break loose. - that s how you grow in america. - you may not feel like america s perfect, but i promise you, you won t like what comes after. - you guys are not tough enough. or maybe i ll put it another way. you re a bunch of pussies. - i wanna introduce rudy giuliani. - we ll let you set the priorities. - when people like donald trump use the word tough, they also mean, you know, cruel. they mean brutal. i think he saw in rudy some of what more of us began