and i have been thinking about it. here we are in the summer and there s a lot of rico bookings this week. i know you got to go and i m going to see you in roughly an hour, but i wanted to share that with you and give you thoughts for what might be the biggest booking yet. i invoked you in the first hour of my show, or second hour, when he told me donald trump switched lawyers in georgia from cardi b. s lawyer to usher s lawyer, and i said, where is ari melber when you need him? i m sure there s some journey analysis when you go from the lawyer who helped cardi b. to the lawyer that helped usher. you re so right. georgia and atlanta have a rich history, some go through the booking process and get acquitted. others don t. the new lawyer represented gunna who got out of a rico case that s still pending by the same d.a. and rick ross, who has skirted the law i think that s fair to say. but neither of those two individuals are in as much trouble as trump and giuliani tonigh
in hawaii president biden promises more aid as the anger rises over the initial response. and communities across the western u.s. clean up from tropical storm hilary, and another powerful storm is barrelling towards texas right now. we begin this hour with the latest on the legal troubles surrounding former president donald trump. two of trump s 18 codefendants in the georgia election interference case surrendered themselves to authorities in fulton, georgia. trump s attorney, john eastman, surrendered himself hours after the codefendant, scott hall, who accessed voting machines and data in coffee county, georgia, turned himself in. this as donald trump says he will travel on thursday to surrender to authorities. that news came hours after his attorneys and the fulton county authorities agreed to his release, and all this as jack smith s team responds to trump s proposal to start the trial in april of 2026. joining us, leslie caldwell and ali vitali. what do we know about t
this. good evening. i m rachel maddow here at msnbc as we begin special coverage of the arrest and booking of former republican president donald trump at the fulton county jail in atlanta, georgia. a historic, historic moment in american politics and american life and for all the worst reasons. he was indicted two weeks ago. he was given until noon tomorrow, noon friday to surrender or face arrest. he s expected to surrender tonight to be fingerprinted, to have his mugshot taken at the county jail. one of the unexpectedly convenient things about having official business to conduct at a jail is that they re open 24/7, 365 days a year. your local jail, they never close. so tonight s events were effectively scheduled at the convenience of the former president himself. he could have come in at any time, as long as it was before noon tomorrow. for whatever reason, he chose tonight. perhaps not coincidentally in primetime, less than 24 hours after all the other candidates running a
of multiple trials in multiple locations. all this legal wrangling can probably be wrapped up in trump s campaign message as he goes along. his goal is to try to delay the trial is in the hope that he may be able to win the white house before any possible convictions. but, the next most immediate step is when donald trump will formally be able to enter his plea of not guilty and that is expected to happen in early september. live now to leslie caldwell, a former doj assistant attorney general for the criminal division. thank you forjoining us. if we can have a look at the situation in georgia first. the 19 defendants have all now surrendered including the former president. what will happen next with those proceedings? so i think in the georgia case the next step as your colleague indicated the arraignment which will be in early september. that will be the time when all the defendants in theory should be present in the courtroom at the same time. and they will appear before th
alleged co-conspirators in that indictment. charles burnham, defense attorney for co-conspirator number 2 from the recent indictment. this is a person who has been confirmed and identified as john eastman, the lawyer, who advised donald trump, who spoke at the january 6th rally there next to rudy giuliani, and was a key architect of much of what the president and his aides were trying to push heading into the january 6th certification. charles, first of all, thank you very much for making the time and joining me tonight. thank you for having me. absolutely. we put aside some time for this. i want to start with a couple of quick things and then get into the case. but first and foremost, donald trump lost the 2020 election. you accept that fact? well, look. there is a large portion of the country that has issues with the 2020 election. there are still discussion about things that went on. a large portion of the country believes in goats or horoscopes. i m asking do you