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Often secure conservatives those debates happen with villains not in the studio, lamb basted by proxy in news clips. in fox they happen in person with a real live liberal who is often on staff. it got us thinking about what it is like at fox and msnbc when guests or commentators are in enemy territory. i wanted to bring on two people who know about that. sally kohn a left leaning community organizer, that job title used against you at fox and at cnn, she peered on fox until a few months ago and ben ferguson a conservative talk radio show in dallas who appears on cnn regularly but in the past before signed at cnn he refused to appear on msnbc. thank you for being here. great to be with you. good to be here. bds ben, first to you back in the days when you weren t signed to any thatnetwork. wasn t worth it. it wasn t close to a fair tight. usually three on one and at best you got cut off, they did not ....

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