Attorney, my recollection is he did speak, he did talk to the hearing officer at that time. He was given, from what i remember, ample time to explain the situation. The hearing officer did uphold the 30day suspension of the original notice. Basically, after i read the brief, i did, i inquired at other counties what they do regarding these and what i did was i took the most successful rate of reduction in sales to minors, which was out of Los Angeles County, and asked what they do. They do have that in their ordinance this they can charge these monetary penalties. Because of the success rate i was interested in what they did and they strictly do suspension of permits. And our ordinance here in San Francisco, the way we read it, it doesnt allow for any kind of monetary penalty. Clearly a violation of california penal code this section 308 only allows for us to do a suspension on the permit, which was what we did in this case. How did you arrive at the 30 day determination . I took over t
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the city of san francisco sfgtv meeting of the board of appeals occurring wednesday, 17 october, 2012, will begin shortly. . good evening, welcome to the october 17th, 2012 meeting of the san francisco board of appeals. the present siding officer this evening is board president cis hwang. one seat on the board is vai captain and pursuant to charter section, the berd may hold a meeting when there is a vacancy. in such instances the board may overrule an action by the department by a vote of 3 members. to my left is deputy city attorney robert bryan, he will provide the board with any needed legal advice. at the controls is victor pacheco, i am cynthia goldstein and we are also joined by representatives of the departments that have cases before the board this evening. scott sanchez is here, he s representing the planning department and the planning commission and joseph duffy is here, senior building inspector representing the department of building inspection. we exp