something that judge merchan can continue up to the time of sentencing. i m just thinking about the judge in the hearing with the gag orders where he said and none of the weight that was going on was lost on him and who this is in front of him. and he said, i don t want to send you to prison, but i have a job to do. we don t know if he s going the next thing i think the country s going to be waiting for is that, and what does prison for a former president look like? can it be done in fort brag in a room? i don t snow. unbelievable. unbelievable thought. thank you not just for being here today when this happened, it s fitting that you are both sitting here next to me, but for being here every day as this goes on. harry lipman, i know we lose you. saying thank you to your contributions to your hours for the trial are ones i d be going through and itemizing. thank you very much. for those of you at home joining us just now, you have been watching msnbc continuing cover
bite from today s speech about reality. we have to actually believe in an objective reality. this is another one of these things that i didn t think i had to lecture about. you have to believe in facts. without facts, there s no basis for cooperation. if i say this is a podium and you say this is an elephant, it s going to be hard for us to cooperate. politics aside, i have to agree. you got to believe in facts. adrian elrod, ken vogel, guys, thank you very much. facts matter. thanks, katie. we are still watching the white house. we will be hearing from president trump at 2:00 p.m. it s the first time he will be speaking after helsinki. he has been facing waves of criticism. not just from democrats but from republicans as well. criticism on fox news.
what do you make of that? what s your take? i think we have to be careful on the houuse of language. there is no question, this was a betrayal. it was a betrayal of american values. it was a betrayal of american government. it was a betrayal of what you would expect the president of the united states to do. i agree it s unlikely congressional republicans are really going to hold him accountable. but there is an element to this that is significant. katie, you have pointed out that the one thing that donald trump fears and hates the most is to look weak. and yesterday, he looked weak. remember when conservatives used to describe people who looked weak on foreign policy as surrender monkeys? that s what donald trump looked like yesterday. he looked like a surrender monkey. he looked weak. he looks survile. and that cuts against his brand. remember, he s supposed to be the guy on the white horse. the guy who s going to solve all
people think it s less pernicio pernicious. it s not. what about trump at 2:00 p.m., can he say anything that would change things? well, i suppose if he tried to put the genie back in the bottle and said i m going to up sanctions and i do trust my intelligence community and here s what happened in that private meeting. i told putin if he meddles in 2018, we re going to, you know, sanction his whole family. but that remains to be seen. he s obviously trying to heal what happened i would think. i wonder because the white house just tweeted, the bottom line, americans want peace, not conflict, nothing would be easier politically than to refuse to meet, refuse to engage, but that would not accomplish anything, and they a tribute that quote to the president. so we ll see. yes, he always doubled down, katie, you re right. i hate that term doubled down, but you re right, that s what he s doing. of the 26 russians now facing charges related to the interference in the 2016 president
dire former strategic director of hillary clinton s 2016 campaign, and ken vogel, political reporter for the new york times. adrian, this is the strongest rebuke i guess we ve seen from the president yet when it comes to what s happening on the world stage. he didn t mention president trump by name, but that is going further for him. yes, it is, katie. you know, first of all, i just want to say, i think i speak for a lot of americans when i say how much i miss president obama and i miss listening to his beautiful oratory and the way he s able to put a positive light on all the things, the negativity going on. secondly, he did remind all of us that, you know, there is much more that we can do to improve things but at the same time, we are living in a very challenging time, where, you know, as he mentioned in his speech, he didn t expect this to be happening a couple years ago. i don t think any of us expected we would be living in these times.