i mean, just jaramillo s tired looking and, you know, you can imagine the amount of stress that must be going through him. and then the old man who didn t look like he was doing particularly well either. did he look frightened or something? yeah, they both looked scared. they both looked like trapped rats on a burning ship, you know? and as they feared, fred was suspicious. he sat down, said not a word. but he d written something on his note pad. at which point, fred schockner lifted that note up that says, are you wired? i m not. very possible. i thought he was going to walk, you know? i thought, you know, this guy s going to come to his senses and realize this stand up and turn out and walk out the restaurant. but he didn t. he stayed. and they talked. frank trying to get fred to admit his role, fred deflecting
look like they ve been rode hard and put away wet. i mean, just jaramillo s tired looking and, you know, you can imagine the amount of stress that must be going through him. and then the old man who didn t look like he was doing particularly well either. did he look frightened or something? yeah, they both looked scared. they both looked like trapped rats on a burning ship, you know? and as they feared, fred was suspicious. he sat down, said not a word. but he d written something on his notepad. at which point, fred schockner lifted that note up that says, are you wired? i m not. very possible. i thought he was going to walk, you know? i thought, you know, this guy s going to come to his senses and realize this stand up and turn out and walk out the restaurant. but he didn t. he stayed. and they talked. frank trying to get fred to admit his role, fred deflecting his attempts.
detectives had engineered a face-to-face meeting between the murder middleman frank jaramillo and the suspected mastermind, lynn schockner s husband, fred. this is where frank would attempt to get fred to say something to incriminate himself. except fred was late. had he finally realized they were laying a trap? nothing. if he didn t show this could all fall apart. then a signal from the surveillance van. there he was. the guys outside saw him kind of casing the place to make sure he wasn t being he was already really paranoid about being setup. reporter: clearly. came in with his notepad. hey, old man, how are you feeling? reporter: now all eyes were on frank and fred. and they both at this point look like they ve been road hard and put away wet. i mean, just jaramillo s tired looking and, you know, you can imagine the amount of stress
yeah, you called him today. did you you didn t happen to ask him if he was back in the country yet, did you? no, i just left a voicemail. oh, ok. reporter: and does this sound like fred is having fun toying with the cops? hey, any other questions that you have for us at this time? uh, happy fishing! yeah, nah, we just, we actually why is it going so long? that s a good question. because the fishing isn t answering, right? well, like i said, you know i told you from the beginning it s a pretty simple case. yeah. but our hold on a second, the other line s ringing. sure. reporter: in the middle of the conversation, fred got another call from frank jaramillo. fred puts him on hold continues to speak with the detective, even offering a theory about the killer, nick harvey. you know, the kid from port hueneme? uh-huh. may have been someone that was associated with the lock change, it may have been someone associated with someone she met and tried to help
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