know. they know so much more than we do. no question. let s be frank. i know the mueller team has been accused of leaks. i ve covered this for more than a year now. that is the tightest black box in washington. you get sort of secondary ripples of what he s looking into based on what lawyers for witnesses tell you, et cetera. and then you get, you know, sort of indications of lines of inquiry that he s going down. but what evidence he s found down these lines of inquiry, that is very much an open question. we know he s asking about trump s financial dealings. has he found financial crimes? we don t know. we know he s asking about still asking about the possibility of collusion, foreknowledge of the hacked e-mails, et cetera. has he found evidence of collusion? we don t know. that s the thing. when he releases that report, that s really when we re going to know the answer to those questions. you made this film, so you spent a lot of time with him. clearly it says some of the
through that interview in a way that he comes out in a way that is positive for him depends in large part on what the substance of the interviews will be. what happens if the president declines to sit for the interview? i think it s a real possibility. to me it s still an open question whether the special counsel would issue a subpoena. so to me, i think it s incredibly likely the special counsel will end the inquiry into trump with a report, without issuing criminal charges, because there s an existing doj policy right now that says you can t charge the sitting president. mueller is bound by all the existing doj policies. if that s the case, it seems to me that mueller needs to get donald trump s version of events. it s really not a complete story. it s not the full picture of what happened, it s not the truth of what happened without it. i think it is very possible that mueller would go the next step to issue a subpoena. it s hard to say given i think 100% mueller will want him t
he did not, but on the 1st he did announce a subsequent schedule for data dumps which began on october 6th. that s why i said i was not sure about the date. i was trying to be precise. you have also said quote, let s be clear, i had no advance notice of wikileaks hacking of podesta s e-mails. again, the washington post pointing out you are always very specific with your denial. can you say you simply had no advance knowledge the hacked e-mails existed? i categorically can. so special counsel robert mueller i think we addressed john podesta question. robert mueller s prosecutors are asking witnesses about you at the grand jury. i know you haven t been contacted. does it concern you haven t been called in for an interview yet? first, let s remember the source of that is sam nunberg to the washington post, to wall street journal, to cnn.
announce subsequent schedules for data dumps. you have also said quote let s be clear, i had no advanced notice of wikileaks hacking of podesta s e-mails. can you say you had no advanced knowledge that the hacked e-mails existed? yes, i absolutely categorically can. yes, and we addressed the john podesta question. special counsel mueller s, have been does it concern you that you vice presidehaven t be. the source is sam nunberg, how reliable a source is he? i have done nothing wrong. and i have substantial bank of e-mails. i am involved in politics.
increasingly bitter that it hasn t concluded yet. his legal team, they continue to go back and forth with mueller s team about the possibility of an interview and the scope of what that might be. those negotiations continue. pamela brown, thanks for the reporting. joining us, cnn legal analyst carrie cordero and ann milgram. how important is this? it could be one of two things. the first is he is really starting to prepare and they are beginning soft questions, sort of getting him comfortable with it. the other option is they are testing him out to see how he would do. you would never let someone like the president of the united states walk into an interview without having been prepped for a good amount of time. it really could be either. but i suspect there may be the possibility they want to see, you know, does he lie, does he equivocate, how does he respond when he gets questions because there is, as you have stated and pamela stated, there is this question of how will he do in