a couple of quick things first, if you could please put away your cell phones, turn them off, silence them, any electronic devices, we would appreciate it. if you re wondering why there s bright lights here, you re all going to be on tv. c-span is taping tonight. i m kidding. you re not going to be on tv. the speaker is going to be on c-span. but when we get to the q&a, they usually want to bring a mic down so they can record it. if you have a question, try to wait until they bring the mic to you so we don t have to repeat it. the speaker will repeat the question so that you can hear it. but this is so they can hear it or however they work it. our speaker tonight is david robarge who received his ph.d. at columbia university. after teaching at columbia and working at the gannett center, he joined the cia i:p7ññ÷ and later became a political and leadership analyst on the middle east. dr. robarge moved to the cia history staff and was appointed chief historian of the cia in
interests. one cia director, george h. w. bush, who was named by gerald ford, later became president himself. this program is two hours. but good evening everyone. my name is ruth robins, it s a pleasure to welcome you here tonight for our program. a couple of quick things first. one is, if you could please put away or cellphones, turned them off silence them and any other electronic devices i would appreciate it. if you are wondering why there are such bright lights in here, it is because you are all going to be tv. c-span is taping tonight, i m kidding. you are not going to be on tv. but when we get to the queue in a, they usually want to bring a mic down, so that they can record it. so if you have a question, just try to wait until they bring the mic to you so you can have to repeat it. the speaker will repeat the question so that you can hear, it but this is so they can hear it or however they work it. our speaker tonight is david rohde barge, who received his ph.d. i
lights in here, because you re all going to be on tv. c-span is taping tonight. i m kidding, you re not going to be on c-span, the speaker will be on c-span. when we get to the q&a, they usually want to bring a mic down so they can record it. so if you have a question, just try to wait until they bring the mic to you so we don t have to repeat it. the speaker will repeat the questions so you can hear, but this is so they can hear it or however they work it. our speaker tonight is david robarge, received a phd at columbia university. after teaching at columbia, banker david rockefeller, media studies at columbia, he joined the cia in 1989 and later became a political and leadership analyst on the middle east. dr. robarge moved to the cia history staff in 1996 and was appointed chief historian of the cia in 2005. he s published several classified works as well as unclassified mono graphs on supersonic reconnaissance aircraft and intelligence the american revolution and biograph
up and wondering who these people are. we would play directors jeopardy. i have not done this before. it may fall flat. or i may spend the rest of the night doing that. let s start with this. longest-serving director of central intelligence. and you can shout out the name. allen dulles, correct. and there is right there. conversely, i m the shortest serving director. pompeo was in for the better part of the year. so was george bush. schlesinger, almost. he was in for about a year and a half. we have to go way back. the first one. he was a crony of harry truman. he made it very clear when he took the job that he only wanted to serve a few months. he was not experienced. truman wanted a figurehead who could get the intelligence group up and running. i am the only convicted felon richard hounds. regrettably. he was caught in a pretty nasty gotcha episode. he was testifying before the senate foreign relations during his hearings before he went out to iran and was asked by senator
documents that were released today. but even that gives us more information about where things are headed, and that s why i think, no matter how redacted the release of this affidavit is gonna be, take the first thing on their. the espionage act. the 18 usc seven 93, we will all were wondering, i rode along piece, what angle are they taking? well, they ve just stated their theory of the case, one, that they might or might not argue to the jury. he retained government documents. well, don, if i go to the white house and help myself to property that s in the oval office, and i take it with me, i m retaining government property. that s a crime. and these are boxes and boxes and boxes. so, we re already learning more. okay, he says he wants this information out there. do you think this is going to be helpful to him? i do not. i think it s going to tell the story of why the government, they had to put the details to convince a judge that there was probable cause of crime. is