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when you meet them, and get you get an impression. i met with one person in oklahoma after the oklahoma city bombings. there was a huge crowd out there. most of them were probably republicans if you want to generalize. this person had the crowd eating out of the palm of his hand. when he was done working the line, there were grandmothers climbing over people to reach out and touch him and shake his hand. we have yet to understand, no matter what you think of him politically, you feel a real strong charismatic feeling. . they opened their house to us, they let us rearrange the furniture to set up cameras and lights. driving away, we both said, this was humbling. it is a privilege to have a job where people are willing to open up to you. they re the people that have done something, not us. and i will add to that. how many of you know mary beth tinker? the case with the bal black armband and vietnam? we did a panel together. during that panel discussion, she felt c ....