the trump belief that if you tell a lie often enough, it becomes the truth. jonathan capeheart, here is steve bannon who is often on message but is very much on policy with donald trump. he 100% agrees with him. he still appears to be trump s brain but he s off message. he is 100% taking the credit for it. he likes the policy. he s out there promoting it this morning and here bannon is on abc saying if congress does not allocate money for the border wall, the wall mexico was supposed to pay for, but if the congress, if the american taxpayer doesn t pay for trump s wall, then the government should be shut down. here s bannon. i would definitely shut down the government over the wall, absolutely. listen, let s get it all on the table. president trump s got a great saying internally when he s talking to you, no games, no games. they have to stop the games. yes, i would say in september if they have not allocated money for the wall, let s shut down the government. on november 6th let t
decide. jonathan? well, steve bannon is all about shutting down the government, actually burning the whole thing down. so let s not be surprised by what he just said. also, let s not be surprised that even though he s off message but likes the policy, he likes the policy because steve bannon is a white nationalist. he is all about ceiling off the border, ceili border, sealing off this country from anyone who might be black or brown, in this case brown. people that are fleeing conditions that are so horrendous that they would risk their own personal safety to make the journey and risk now separation of their families, obliteration of their families just by crossing the border either illegally in terms of law, which they said earlier was a misdemeanor, or by legally going to a place where they can ask for asylum. so we should listen to steve bannon because he is saying
know, some political advantage for republicans who want to use crying children and unhumane policy for political advantage. these pictures should show hold the mirror up to the american people and see what the u.s. government, what the president of the united states is doing supposedly in their name. this is not who we are. and if we re going to talk about the november election, if those pictures don t galvanize and motivate good hearted, good natured empathetic americans to come out and vote to at least put people in congress in state houses and governors houses who will change this to make sure that this doesn t happen again. go to the next person, joy, because i i m like you from the first segment. i cannot believe as a journalist, as an american citizen that i am talking about an american government that is doing this and a congress that
i think i just made that really clear, and we believe because of the court ruling this will require legislative change. e.j., he can make legislative change. he s the speaker of the house. right. there are bills out there, he could just embrace bills that would stop the administration from doing this. he could also just have the guts to tell donald trump, no, this is wrong. i am a republican speaker and i m not going to have the republican party stand for a policy like this. he doesn t do that. and even the moderates in the house who have some of whom have at least put up a show of trying to get more reasonable legislation through, they should immediately say, if they want to live up to the moderation that they re talking about, that this policy is antithey anti-thetica e republican party stands for and values. it s very depressing to watch what donald trump has done to so many people inis parties.
the trump administration has said that fit wants a zero tolerance policy, 100% prosecutions. but it s not there yet. so it means only more families ripped apart. we have a staff member on the ground in texas who spoke with families this week who said they were not given a chance to say good-bye. they were told we re taking your child to shower or you ll your child after court and when they came back, they were separated. the impact of this can t be overstated. s it s horrific. we learned this week courtesy of the new york times that john kelly has been advocating this very policy since march of 2017 and steven miller who we don t talk about much anymore, he s still in the administration. times reports said that he said no nation can have the policy of