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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:38:00

Fani willis or whether this grand jury here believe that these state laws or broken here. we know that the anticipation those witnesses, george chidi as well as jeff duncan, they were supposed to go before the grand jury tomorrow. but abruptly here this afternoon, fani willis s office ask them to come in and testify. both men have done so now. and now, apparently, their final witnesses intended to go before the grand jury, apparently they re not going to be brought in to testify. in fact, instead, she went straight to vote here, as a thunderstorm began here outside downtown atlanta. yeah, vaughn, you told us several things including every of the case, if charged, which is the vote we are waiting on. that could really stretch from early november out until 2021. that is certainly a wider calendar than the jack smith charge, but it may speak to what americans have learned on this process, that we actually take seriously the different laws and different places, and what happened in georg

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:04:00

Country. we cannot forget exactly what happened. let americans decide. we will let america decide what s best for us. as a republican, this is a perfect point for us. this is a pivot point the pivot point is we need to get this party back in the right direction, and to do that, we re gonna have to go through tough stuff. joining us now from the fulton county courthouse is nbc news correspondent, blayne alexander. blaine, it is good to see you. where do things stand at this hour. what can you tell us? reporter: well, symone, things are certainly moving. i have been in touch with a source of mine, with direct knowledge of these proceedings. and i m told that that grand jury is currently convening right now. we know that fulton county d.a. fani willis wanted to wrap this up tonight. we know that she got through at least seven witnesses. the grand jury took a break, and as i mentioned, i ve been told now that they are voting right now. this is an acceleration of the

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:30:00

Loyal to the then president, they got pardoned. stay with me. i want to tell viewers, as we hit the half hour mark here on the east coast, we have reporting the grand jury in georgia has begun voting. that s a process that could take some time. it could take long time. what we have no reason to think it will take all night. which means this is the middle of the news moment. we think we are going to get this news. why is this night different than other nice? what does it look a bit different? well, it s because one of this big news nights that s unrolling, breaking news. which is coming up around the nine pm hour here on monday, east coast time. but we have also been scrambling the jets to cover this for you as we have learned that this was coming. i have mentioned earlier in the day, we heard this was going to the be a two-day process and then they re trying to get all the witnesses. and we have become the scrambling. i am thrilled to tell you as our special breaking coverage conti

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:14:00

I m curious what you think, again, just what the underlying facts might justify as this grand jury, we are told, does vote now for the first time? i think rico is perfectly appropriate for this case. you know, people tend to think of it as being used only in mafia cases. and that s how it originated. it s been years note of different kinds of cases, including fani willis. in my own district, we used it for street gangs, and we used it for corrupt public officials. and as roberts said, the beauty of it is it creates an umbrella. and you could bring all of these different predicate acts under that umbrella, so that the jury gets to hear the full scope of the criminal scheme, which maybe fast, and we have some very different schemes with different people doing different tasks. but it s all coming together for that same purpose. it would seem to me that this is really a perfect case for rico. the advantage of rico in addition to it being a fulsome picture of the trial is that unlike the

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Transcripts for MSNBC All In With Chris Hayes 20240604 00:18:00

And the way they re going to be would on the indictment is as follows. it will stay, say the state of georgia versus the following defendants, maybe it s donald trump followed by several others. on the right side of the front page of the indictment, it will also show the charges that are being brought, that have been approved by the grand jury. and underneath each of those defendants names, you will see an identification of which number count applies to that particular defendant slash codefendant. but very, i think, key for us to think about at this time, considering the threats menacing that you have been seeing from the former president in this case, it s the fact that the jurors names will be revealed, ari, on that indictment. their names would be printed on a certain page of that indictment. those that were not present to vote, their names would be scratched out. but you can still see their names as they sat in service. so i think it s really important for people to realize, unlike

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