provoking should worry about whether you re provoking russia too far frankly, we are provoking russia but that we think it s are provoking russia but that we think it s a are provoking russia but that we think it s a wry thing or not, america think it s a wry thing or not, america is think it s a wry thing or not, america is very close to open war with russia. that means what nato is very close with russia. that means what nato is very close to with russia. that means what nato is very close to open war with russia. the time very close to open war with russia. the time for very close to open war with russia. the time for treading carefully is gone the time for treading carefully is gone i the time for treading carefully is gone. i think it s fascinating that sweden gone. i think it s fascinating that sweden has got this far, we expected finland sweden has got this far, we expected finland. ~ ., ., ., finland. we ve got to leave it there. ithink finla
it was the slight it. remember, it was the slight suggestion at the time that ukraine was interested injoining nato that got putin into the state where he has launched this appalling war on ukraine. but i think it is a good thing that sweden and finland have applied tojoin and thing that sweden and finland have applied to join and that nato is expanding. there is a question that has been asked recently, what has nato been doing to stop russia? it s very dangerous because there is nuclear weaponry involved. imere very dangerous because there is nuclear weaponry involved. were back in 2007 with nuclear weaponry involved. were back in 2007 with georgia. nuclear weaponry involved. were back in 2007 with georgia. a nuclear weaponry involved. were back in 2007 with georgia. a quick - nuclear weaponry involved. were back in 2007 with georgia. a quick final- in 2007 with georgia. a quick final word from you, kate. what are your thoughts on nato s expansion or potential expansion? i thoug
provoking should worry about whether you re provoking russia too far frankly, we are provoking russia but that we think it s are provoking russia but that we think it s a are provoking russia but that we think it s a wry thing or not, america think it s a wry thing or not, america is think it s a wry thing or not, america is very close to open war with russia. that means what nato is very close with russia. that means what nato is very close to with russia. that means what nato is very close to open war with russia. the time very close to open war with russia. the time for very close to open war with russia. the time for treading carefully is gone the time for treading carefully is gone i the time for treading carefully is gone. i think it s fascinating that sweden gone. i think it s fascinating that sweden has got this far, we expected finland sweden has got this far, we expected finland. ~ ., ., ., finland. we ve got to leave it there. ithink finland. we ve
control of the eastern regions they declared independent. perhaps they ll say ukraine pledge not to join nato. why would they do that not, especially when other non-nato countries in their part of the world, think finland, sweden, appear to leap into the alliance themselves. earlier, i spoke with the former prime minister of finland, alexander stubb, about what this crisis means for his country, his continent, and nato. thank you for joining me on the show this even. how worried are people in finland tonight they could be next? if vladimir putin is allowed to invade and overrun a non-nato neighbor, is allowed to implicitly threaten the whole region, there s nothing to stop him going after finland or even sweden at some point, too? i think in the big picture, people are very worried.