control of the eastern regions they declared independent. perhaps they'll say ukraine pledge not to join nato. why would they do that not, especially when other non-nato countries in their part of the world, think finland, sweden, appear to leap into the alliance themselves. earlier, i spoke with the former prime minister of finland, alexander stubb, about what this crisis means for his country, his continent, and nato. thank you for joining me on the show this even. how worried are people in finland tonight they could be next? if vladimir putin is allowed to invade and overrun a non-nato neighbor, is allowed to implicitly threaten the whole region, there's nothing to stop him going after finland or even sweden at some point, too? >> i think in the big picture, people are very worried.