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Other places of worship. drive them out out of your communities. drive them out of your holy land. and drive them out of this eart earth. tucker: so hollis can the u.s. hoped to prevent future manchester s, whether any warning signs of the rest of us miss? a former white house national security council director, former member of israel s counterterrorism unit. they both join us tonight. you just wrote this book which i read and really enjoyed called warnings in which you say that for almost every disaster that face our society, there were people who called it, from the financial class to the rise of isis and the rest of us ignore them. where there warnings that we missed for what s happening in europe right now? as you said, every disaster i can think of in my lifetime, a person who said very clearly, this is going to happen, pay attention to me. there was a very clear person warning about the rise of isis, he happened to be a u.s. ....
Never alone but this myth of the fact that they are alone actors serves three purposes mainly. one is that it allows security services when they commit mistakes to say there is nothing we could do about it anyway. we couldn t stop them or protected them. it allows politicians to say there s nothing we can do aboutm it and thereby retreats a politically correct standard. and third, it allows most importantly our communities to shirk responsibility because ofn course, the truth isis we re in the midst of europe of the jihadist insurgency where people who are like me and others and live among us have become radicalized and it isn t isis that radicalize them. isis plucked the low-hanging fruit. they ve been radicalized for decades because of this ideology that s been spreading. tucker: what do wes do about it? ....
A series of islamist rebel groups with ties to al qaeda and isis, which we currently do, which is insane and because russian bombing may have hurt some of those islamists, that s a threat to our national security?t we don t have a ton of time left but connect the dots for me if you would. let me connect the dots for you. we are trying to stabilize syria. we need to stabilize syria. more than 400,000 people have been killed in syria. russia is not trying to stabilize syria. p russia is propping up this assad regime which is fueling isis. isis was born out of the crisis in syria, the fact that no oneli was supporting the moderates who were opposing assad and the sunni population turned to isis. that s what created isis. isis is a convenient foe for the russians. because isis is helping fight the battle that russia wants fought. do you think russia cares that there was an attack in manchester? that helps russia. ....
David tafuri is a former obama campaign foreign policy advisor. he once worked for the state department and i know that he is going to agree with me on this. let me start with the obvious question. which is a bigger threat to the u.s, isis or russia?ic both are a huge threat. tucker: which is bigger? i think isis is a more immediate threat absolutely. but russia has a much stronger military. russia can hurt us and hurt u.s. interests all over the world. we have to worry about both. tucker: we don t have the graphic. i m just going here with the facts as they are. we have on the one side, isis islamic terror, al qaeda over the past 15 yearsv thousands of americans have lost their lives, many thousands to those forces. russia has killed zero americans. so it s really not even in the same universe actually. the threat we face from islamic terror and the threat we face from russia. one is theoretical. the one is real and present, so why are we not seeing that? first of all, you c ....
About them. what we ve seen as it started to lose territory in iraq and syrie as they ve sent out more and more fervent messages to the people around the world who may be recruited by them sayingpe please go off and take terrorist attacks of your own. so isis doesn t just becomee a landlord who owns this fake caliphate in iraq and syriazi. they become what i call an idea of mass instruction, getting out there radicalizing and getting people to do their bidding.t and it s very likely we will see here, and i think that s what we have seen in the attacks and maybe attempted attacks in united states. tucker: when they get weaker on the battlefield, they get more crazy and dangerous., that s the basic principle. thanks a lot to both of you. i appreciate it. the american and media embarrassed itself with its glacial response to the massacre in manchester last night, in case you didn t notice. joe conch will be here too explain why that happened and why some channels felt russia s mattered ....