david tafuri is a former obama campaign foreign policy advisor. he once worked for the state department and i know that he is going to agree with me on this. let me start with the obvious question. which is a bigger threat to the u.s, isis or russia?ic >> both are a huge threat. >> tucker: which is bigger? >> i think isis is a more immediate threat absolutely. but russia has a much stronger military. russia can hurt us and hurt u.s. interests all over the world. we have to worry about both. >> tucker: we don't have the graphic. i'm just going here with the facts as they are. we have on the one side, isis islamic terror, al qaeda over the past 15 yearsv thousands of americans have lost their lives, many thousands to those forces. russia has killed zero americans. so it's really not even in the same universe actually. the threat we face from islamic terror and the threat we face from russia. one is theoretical. the one is real and present, so why are we not seeing that? >> first of all, you can't evaluate the threat just based on how many american lives have been lost. russia is a threat to democracy. it's a threat to our way of life. look at what russia has done in