absolutely. if you ask the experts, technology and personnel, those are theno things that are neede desperately andha quickly. the president ought to be sitting down with us and making this border more secure by makingde investments he ll have democrats on board. you would give him twice thew money, if none of the money goes to the wall and all goes to what you just described you would probably double it and we get out of this tomorrow? i canit tell you that i thin there s an appetite among democrats to do something the wall.t for example to stop the flow of drugs into this country and to stop the flow of weapons and laundered drug money out of this country that build these cartels in mexico and central america. is daca for the wall, the compromise that was alive for a fewro days back in the day? is that still if the president came back and said would youid take that i ll te that deal now, would you have the support in your party to accept it? well, i touched that hot sto
stove back in february. i can tell you that this president s word when it comes to these young people who are in desperate situations because he eliminated daca, the president s word didn t stand up. when we basically got down to real bargaining. the day will come soon when the court protection of the young people and their families is going to end. we ll have to face the reality of either abandoning them or working together to find a solution. let me turn to secretary mattis. you sent a series of tweets after the news of his resignation broke. and you called him the last adult in the room, i believe at one point. do you think secretary mattis should have stayed regardless of his views? because he was supposedly the last guardrail or one of the few guardrails that some thought were in the administration? chuck, there was something very interesting about this. i was one of many senators who privately sat down with general mattis and said, please stay. stay as long as you possibly ca
you re open to the pricetag as long as it s not for the wall. absolutely. and if you ask the experts, even in the administration, they will tell you that the technology and personnel, those are the things that are needed desperately and quickly. the president ought to be sitting down with us and making this border more secure by making investments. he ll have democrats onboard. you d give him twice the money, if none of the money goes to the wall and all goes to what you described, you would double it and we get out of this tomorrow? i can tell you that i think there is an appetite among democrats to do something sensible at the wall. for example, to stop the flow of drugs into the country and to stop the flow of weapons and laundered drug money out of this country that build these cartels in mexico and central america. is daca for the wall, the compromise alive for a few days back in the day. if the president said i ll take that deal now, would you have the support in your par
inexplicable that they come from china, the largest country in the world. so we have to have a policy based on reality and facts. it s not like there s one line and everybody gets in it. but that s an argument to change the policy, not to violate the law as it exists. right. well that s where i think a lot of people come into the issue can we agree on daca, can we agree on children who are here. they didn t break the law and come over here and sneak this this country. they have been here their entire lives, the only country they know. they see themselves as americans. the children, we start with you. let me ask you, there are people on the right who say that s like saying a bank robber s children should keep the money. i they came here as the product of law breaking, why should they reap the benefit? many have left their countries because of civil warfare or poverty and crime and trafficking. all kinds of different situations. and we have a policy in the united states whe
refugees, people to apply for political asylum. many didn t have the means to month tearily come in through that path. many of these came in as youngsters, such as young as six months as infants. the only culture they know is ours. i don t think they cross the line in terms of criminal violations, and that s where i do differ with those other opponents and say, oh, well they re breaking the law. guess what, the laws are flexible. we should be flexible and the reality is they have made economic contributions. if we were to get rid of even 8 million individuals that currently work in our system that are in the underground economy, we would see some hemorrhaging in terms of job loss and economic strife in different parts, i think, of our country. steve, when you look at daca, certainly there does seem to be a majority in favor. but i m intrigued by your thought that the democrats should be more extreme on this issue, you know, resolutely fighting from immigration