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suggest that. is there any evidence to suggest that the presidency was what they were focused on? there is some evidence of that. there were people saying we don t want jefferson davis to be elected president and there was also one of the drafts of section 3 specifically mentioned the presidency and the vice president. but it wasn t the final enactment. right. it wasn t the final enactment, but it shows there was some concern about some people about confederate insurrectionists ascending to the presidency. we look at the historical evidence and pick the evidence we like and interpret is tan den shally because you can throw this counterveiling evidence back in our face. we wanted to focus on the text of the constitution, this was a compromised provision that was enacted in section 3. let me ask you another question about the states. you have forcefully made an argument about the states not being able to enforce section 3, so if we agree with you on that, what h ....

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classified documents. the special counsel found evidence that president biden, quote, willfully retaineds classified materials found no reason to press criminal charges. drew distinction between the criminal probe of handling of documents and his findings regarding president biden. the long standing justice department priniple that you cannot indict a sitting president does not apply and would not bring charges even if joe biden were no longer president. we ll have more on that later in the program. we begin with a hearing at the nation s highest court. an historic hearing for some very big questions about the constitution. the future of our democracy and at the heart of the case, a request from voters for some accountability for an unprecedented insurrection. first up, jonathan mitchell, the attorney for donald trump, argued among other things, that january 6th was not an insurrection. it was a riot. he also argued that the president is not technically an officer of th ....

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just say, your point is that there s no ambiguity with having a list and not having president in it with having a history that suggests they were really focussed on local concerns in the south, with this conversation where the legislators actually discussed what looked like an ambiguity, you are saying there s no ambiguity in section 3? let me take the point specifically about electors and senators, if i might. yes. that might be important. presidential electors were not covered, because they don t hold an office. they vote. i m talking about the barred office part of this. exactly. the barred if you want to include everybody, first you have to suppress phi presidential electors. they wouldn t fall under any office. secretary of all, senators and representatives don t hold office either. the constitution tells us that and refers to them as holding seats, not offices. you want to make sure there s no doubt that senators and representatives are covered given t ....

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