read the transcripts, we have heard in the news reporting, including from you, ari, exactly what they tell us. the new york times reporting the president signed off on john dowd being the lawyer for the indicted guiliani associate. is that normal? that s interesting. that s weird. that s weird. first of all, unless you have a direct conflict, in which case you might get a waiver of the conflict, john dowd was no longer representing the president here. right. so this was totally political. you ve got to wonder what other conversations were had. very striking. we ll dig more into that. maya, thanks as always for being here. still to come, we ll break down the web of legal relationships in the ukraine scandal. and day one of the roger stone trial did not go as planned. we have that news tonight. ave t. pe ith tyiabetes are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c
mueller investigation and in other settings. he had to recall. he told investigators what he knew they already knew in order to save himself. emily, let me read to you some other parts that i haven t gotten to yet that are also new obviously. we got a lot of new information here. he talks about the role that giuliani played, that giuliani proposed language negotiating a public statement to get that biden probe, the burisma 2016, and that language was, quote, being proposed by giuliani. emily, how important is this that they re not only getting different people appearing to admit this but really showing everyone in realtime who was writing what. and guiliani apparently is ghost writing announcements from ukraine. right. so you see guiliani in the middle of this and sondland, who is supposed to be our ambassador to the european union is the kind of in between middleman
well. we haven t hit this once yet this hour, he s the other testimony that comes out. he says we have a conversation with rudy to say ukrainians are looking at this. rudy says if it doesn t say the biden company and it doesn t say 2016 it s not credible. and volker explains to congress, new today, what you re saying is at the ending of the same statement insert the biden company, burisma, and that should be more credible and guiliani says yes. what does that mean there in plain english? what that means in plain english is that rudy giuliani is actively instructing public servants whose job is to serve the national security interests of the united states to essentially demand something of value, something that is important to donald trump in his personal capacity not as president of the united states of america. yeah. and so this is something as we ve been reporting out as it hits the hill, there are a lot more senate republicans who don t really want to talk about
back to you on other pieces of this. up ahead, we have a lot more on the bombshell news, including what it does to the republican defense on the hill. also in a different vein, a different impeachment nightmare for trump as a guiliani associating is linked to ukraine and very upset now, apparently, at donald trump himself. and then as promised, day one and there was already drama and incidents at the roger stone trial. we have a reporter who was inside the courtroom all day giving us everything you need to know. and then tonight later, a very special interview, oscar winner forest whitaker on the beast. i m ari melber, stay with us. i m ari melber, stay with us biopharmaceutical researchers. driven each day to pursue life-changing cures. in a country built on fostering innovation.
shadow foreign policy agenda with ukraine. a reminder that while guiliani says he s trump s lawyer, he s actually in the most trouble for things that have very little to do with practicing law, and that brings us to our special report tonight of the growing web of legal relationships of allegations of illegal actions in the ukraine scandal. guiliani at the center of it all for his attempted dploem acres not lawyering. take a look, he was paid half a million dollars by these ukrainian businessmen who have been indicted but guiliani is not their lawyer for those charges. at one time both were defended by guiliani s co-counsel, john dowd. in fact dowd is still fruman s lawyer. now those defendants claim their proximity to trump aides should give them some kind of trump powers. this is a farfetched claim of executive privilege. those ukrainians that you see are the client employing two trump lawyers.