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Transcripts For MSNBCW The Beat With Ari Melber 20180729 04:00:00

The days biggest political and news stories, with interviews and reporting from around the nation. Charge of an investigation and a guy who is the subject of an investigation that just got more profound. We have to preface everything, ari, with if the account from Michael Cohen is true, blah, blah, blah. So if the account is true, it is a tremendous change in the landscape. What it does is show us two things. One, that donald trump, from the very beginning, was in on an attempt at collusion, an attempt to conspire with a plot that was described to donald trump jr. As a secret operation by the kremlin to help trump. So if trump knows about that from the very beginning, and is in on it, i think that has a lot of legal, but even more so, political implications. Plus if hes told about this, and even if nothing came out of the meeting, remember throughout the whole campaign and up to now he keeps denying or dismissing the russian operation. Could have been a 400pound guy in a basement. The

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180729:04:11:00

narratives which intertwine are bolstered by michael cohen s account if true. and so jennifer when david lays it out like that, it s chilling because the more benign earlier interpretations that were available were lower-level people did this, or everyone s an idiot, and they didn t really understand all the meetings they were going to. by the way, idiot defenses can work in the law. it s not a crime to be stupid and go to the wrong meeting. what david lays out when you put these pieces together, according to cohen s theory of the case. we always can report there will be denials, there will be other perspectives. but according to cohen s theory of the case, you re adding testimonial evidence that suggests, no, they weren t idiots. at a very high level they had a lot of information that they then acted on. and all the idiot behavior was in one direction. no one ever thought, oh, i met with the russians when they didn t. they kept saying they never met with the russians when they did

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180727:22:11:00

this meeting, it means he was told that russia wanted to help him secretly. and here he is now publicly communicating with russia say, hey, this is how i want you to help. i mean, collusion, conspiracy, obstruction, coverup, all these narratives which intertwine are bolstered by michael cohen s account if true. and so jennifer when david lays it out like that, it s chilling because the more benign earlier interpretations that were available were lower-level people did this, or everyone s an idiot, and they didn t really understand all the meetings they were going to. by the way, idiot defenses can work in the law. it s not a crime to be stupid and go to the wrong meeting. what david lays out when you put these pieces together, according to cohen s theory of the case. we always can report there will be denials, there will be other perspectives. but according to cohen s theory of the case, you re adding testimonial evidence that suggests, no, they weren t idiots. at a very high level t

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