show instead of you. i m sure that would have been interesting. it woulds about process and the creative process. nobody gives a [bleep]. couldn t wear a tie for the big show? walter, you think that wiener and hu ma have a manturian marriage. i think it is manturian. i think they were programed by advanced techniques to stay together and advance toward power no matter what. i guess that s how i define glutonian. let s call the whole thing off. somebody had to say it. i had to get there before mccurio. you mentioned that wiener s numbers are still okay.