show instead of you. >> i'm sure that would have been interesting. >> it woulds about process and the creative process. >> nobody gives a [bleep]. >> couldn't wear a tie for the big show? >> walter, you think that wiener and hu ma have a manturian marriage. >> i think it is manturian. i think they were programed by advanced techniques to stay together and advance toward power no matter what. >> i guess that's how i define glutonian. >> let's call the whole thing off. somebody had to say it. i had to get there before mccurio. >> you mentioned that wiener's numbers are still okay.