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This program is about 90 minutes. Mr. Bond Justice Thomas, thank your for being with us on explorations in black leadership. I want to begin with a question about brown v board. Did you have some sense that this was a big deal . Justice thomas well, not at the time. The big deal was learning the multiplication table and learning how to add, but as the years went on, particularly 1956, 1957, you got a sense of it because there was quite a bit of talk about it. My grandfather was very involved in the naacp, for example. So you heard that. You also heard, as i mentioned when i wrote my memoirs, that we saw the impeach earl warren science along the highway. Signs along the highway. Later on, i would figure it out that it was the chief justice of the United States and he was in trouble. Mr. Bond i guess there is no way i could ever say would you ever think youd be sitting at the bu ....
Justice thomas i did not think i would even see the building where he worked. Mr. Bond did you have some idea of what it might mean, what it could mean as opposed to what it might have turned out to mean . Justice thomas you know, my grandfather was an interesting man. And he felt that as you as these rights were vindicated, that we had an obligation to measure up, to use them. I would give you an example. When the Savannah Public Library finally desegregated and we were allowed to go to the main library, his point was that we were obligated to use it. That is, we had to show up no matter what and we had to read books because we finally had a right to do so. When it came to education, as the rights became available, we had an obligation to use them properly. So he would say to me, in 1964 when i went to the seminary which was previously allwhite, he said, dont shame me and dont shame the race. In other words, you have to ....