the more i learn about them, the more interesting they get. it seems to be a bottomless pool of interesting facts and passions and contradictions. they are both fascinating characters. what makes them so interesting? part of the interest for me is that there are parts that are famous and very well known. they have heard of the infamous caning. thing they the only know about. his career came after that. he came back in 1859 and the het important part was when becomes a dedicated advocate for civil rights laws. he was contradictory and ordinary. he was arrogant and most of his colleagues hated him. he has left a lasting legacy that i think is quite profound. he was from a different perspective. in 1969. he was probably the most effective minority leader we ve ever had. this is the time of heavy party dominance. he managed to shave every bill that came through. he was entertaining and clownish. the voters loved him. behind the clown was this very serious legislator. he just had
betty koed: it would probably be a tie between charles sumner, two very different people. the more i learn about them, the more interesting they get. charles sumner just seemed to be a bottomless pool of the interesting fact and passions and contradictions. endocyte know more about air, i am finding similar things about , and did he had bad stop about what he did. brian: what makes them so interesting? betty: part of the interest for me is that there are parts that are famous and very well known. they have heard of the infamous caning. that is not the only thing they know about. the most interesting part of his career came after that. he came back in 1859 and the most important part was when he becomes a dedicated advocate for civil rights laws. he was contradictory and ordinary. he was ordinary. he was arrogant. he was arrogant and most of his colleagues hated him. he has left a lasting legacy that i think is quite profound. he was from a different perspective. he died in 1
brian: what makes them so interesting? betty: part of the interest for me is that there are parts of sumner s career that are famous and very well known. everybody who has visited the they ve heardng, infamous caning. but that is often the only thing they know about him. he left the senate for a few years and came back in 1859. the most interesting part of his career came after that. he came back in 1859 and the most important part was when he becomes a dedicated advocate for civil rights laws. he was contradictory and he was ornery. he was difficult and arrogant and most of his colleagues hated him. he has left a lasting legacy that i think is quite profound. brian: why everett dirksen? brian: he was from a different perspective. senatory in the 1960 s.nd he died in 1969. he was probably the most effective minority leader we ve ever had. this is the time of heavy party dominance in the senate. nevertheless, he managed to shape every bill that came through. most particularly