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when there s life and light and love. and that if we can just get to the light and life and love, 51% of the time, then we are having a good day. and we are having a good era. don t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. and i think that america is a marvelous example of a human community that gets so much wrong but which knows intuitively that if you do the right thing, everybody benefits. and we have to see each other as neighbors and not as enemies. do not despair, do not give up, in the words of churchill, never, never, never give up. try john meacham, as always, thank you for being with us. i hope you and your family are having a great fourth of july weekend. that was joe s conversation with john meacham ahead of this july 4th holiday. erin o hearn picks up the coverage right now. good money. morning, john. don t go far. no holiday starting yet. good morning to you at home and welcome to msnbc s live coverage on this monday, july 4th. we begin with the lat ....
to canceled and delayed flights, a look at the chaos for holiday travelers across the country. we ve got a lot of news to get to this morning, but we ll start with the january 6th investigation and the possibility that former president trump could be referred to the justice department for criminal prosecution. here s an interview with vice chair of the committee, congresswoman liz cheney. so the committee will or will not make a criminal referral? we ll make a decision as a committee about it. there is possible there will be a criminal referral. yes. which would be effectively the committee saying he should be prosecuted, and this is the evidence we ve the justice department doesn t have to wait for the committee to make a criminal referral. there could be more than one criminal referral. i have greater concern about what it would mean if people weren t held accountable for what s happened here. i think it s a much graver constitutional threat if a presi ....
constitutional right to abortion. for the third time this week, thousands of members of the rmt union have been taking part in a one day strike, causing disruption to rail services across britain. good afternoon. borisjohnson says he will not undergo what he calls a psychological transformation of his character. speaking to the bbc, the prime minister insisted that policy was more important than personality. it s been a particularly bruising week for mrjohnson, after the conservatives lost two by elections, before the resignation of his party chairman. this report from our political correspondent, tony bonsignore, contains some flash photography. the war in ukraine, inflation, the threat of a global recession, there s plenty for commonwealth leaders in rwanda to ponder. but, for borisjohnson, domestic politics is never far away. this week s by election defeats in wakefield and tiverton and honiton have spooked some tory mps. and oliver dowden s resignation as party ch ....
turning a july 4th parade into a mad dash for survival. police say the fgunman fired frm a rooftop. witnesses describe the confusion and chaos. i thought for a second maybe it was fire crackers. you ve heard before people aren t sure what it is, but it was too fast and too quick, and my son said no, that s gunfire. we turned and ran and i pushed my son s wheelchair, and the wheelchair collapsed on the pavement. he toppled over and i fell. it happened again. and then my young son picks up my older son and ran. we ran for our lives. six were killed. dozens more wounded. the video shows police apprehending a man described as a suspect and a person of interest. we re getting details this hour including about the weapon. what authorities call a high-powered rifle. the highland park mayor says the shooter bought the gun legally. that s despite a growing body of online evidence of disturbing posts from this man fantasizing about carnage and carrying out attacks and even su ....
the victims on scene tell cnn about the horrifying moments that followed. there were several people who were obviously deceased. there was a gentleman who i believe, i ve heard since has succumbed. he had a gunshot to his abdomen. we started an i ve. i went across the street. there was another woman with a gunshot to her chest. she was deceased. the people who were gone were blown up by that gunfire. blown up? blown up. blown up. the horrific scene of some of the bodies is unspeakable for the average person. those are wartime injuries. those are what are seen in victims of war. not victims at a parade. the highland park mayor says she expects charges later today against the suspect as investigators work to uncover more about him and what led to this deadly day. some of those details, a disturbing digital trail and a legally bought firearm. josh campbell was at the press conference and join us now. josh, tell us what stood out to you from all the new information ....