things with his finances and had a relationship with a good friend, a very wealthy friend that vacationed together and a long list of those. the wall street journal has gone through point by point saying we can say all these things have context or either or not true or taken way out of whack. but the washington post this morning has this if you could pull it up. judicial activists directed fees to clarence thomas wife and urged no mention of guinea thomas. leonard leo told kellyanne conway to build the nonprofit and use it to pay the spouse of the supreme court justice and not put her name in it. other networks this morning are covering this as if it is breaking news. what do you say? i didn t watch any of that. this is 2012 according to the washington post. he is quoted in the article saying i ve known the thomas s and been my friends since 1990 and i am very mindful how
final report but they re not in any rush to do so. because they don t need to wrap up their own work. in terms of fact finding, they re looking for weeks, with guinea thomas, and they were asking her to come in and talk to them. they re hoping this could be voluntary, but also because it allows them to avoid the optics that the fact that her husband is a sitting supreme court justice despite she was talking with mark meadows and john eastman. there are multiple threads that connect ginny thomas, and there so there are clear questions she should have to answer for the committee but the optics are sticky between congress and the supreme court and i think the
precedent, to make the determination, if they can and should indictment. if we just wash this under the rug and say for the sake of the country, let s put this aside, there is going to be somebody else, whether it is donald trump in 2024, or somebody else somewhere down the line that recognized that as the floor of their behavior and pushed even more and we can t survive that. that was congressman kinzinger last hour on morning joe. now let s bring in capitol hill correspondent ali vitali. thanks for being with us. how likely is the committee to seen guinea thomas and what is the latest we just heard from adam kinzinger. reporter: in the same way that congressman is here as not a lawyer, i am too. but what i can tell you, it doesn t even matter that the committee refers or doesn t refer criminal contempt charges to the doj. the doj can do their own investigation. which is why we re seeing sort of this two-pronged pressure campaign from the committee. toying with the idea as they
guinea thomas is an important figure, an influential voice in the conservative movement but at the end of the day she was in the outer ring of trump s circle and efforts she participated in to overturn the 2020 election are important but not something that the committee necessarily needs to be focusing on. ginny thomas can get and say whatever she wants. what makes her story significant is that clarence thomas hasn t recused himself in the january 6 cases. i agree, i don t think she is such an important figure but she is a participant in this incredibly controversial set of facts that has wound up before the supreme court and her husband continues to sit on them. that s what s wrong with this story. certainly should be addressed. thank you so much to both of you. nearly four months into the war ukrainian forces are still fighting against russia. now they re facing fatigue. matthew chance live for us from
do you have giuliani, the people like tucker who make money doing this, but you have people who are sleeping in the same bed with a member of the supreme court who could decide actual cases whetheror about who decides who is the president of the united states actively engaging in insurrection. yeah. well, i think, first, i want to comment directly on the thomas reality of it, but i will say that one thing that s become clear from this situation and prior situations is that the standards for recusal on the supreme court, which have been notoriously lax, are something that in a functioning society, which we know i think scaresly qualify at this point, that would have about something that would have been remormd a long time ago because it s simply inconsistent with any form democracy that those two things co-exist. it s difficult, and i respect