the allegations. he s been granted bail and is due to appear in court again next month. now on bbc news, hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk, i m stephen sackur. for once, the headlines coming out of ukraine have been dominated by diplomacy rather than the latest from the war front. the leaders of the eu s three biggest countries staged a visit to kyiv on the eve of a key brussels decision will ukraine be given official eu candidate status? for the zelensky government, it would be a symbolic prize to match the practical military and economic assistance still urgently required. well, my guest is one of ukraine s deputy prime ministers, olha stefanishyna. is ukraine getting the backing it needs? deputy pm olha stefanishyna, in kyiv welcome to hardtalk. hello, stephen. thank you very much forjoining us. now, over the last few hours, you have been heavily involved in hosting the leaders of france, germany, and italy in kyiv. the meeting, as we speak, is still ongoing. does the fact
and economic assistance still urgently required. well, my guest is one of ukraine s deputy prime ministers, olha stefanishyna. is ukraine getting the backing it needs? deputy pm olha stefanishyna, in kyiv welcome to hardtalk. hello, stephen. thank you very much forjoining us. now, over the last few hours, you have been heavily involved in hosting the leaders of france, germany and italy in kyiv. the meeting, as we speak, is still ongoing. does the fact of this visit give you hope that you re finally going to get the levels of assistance from europe that you say you need? well, we have been very clear from the very beginning that regardless the outcomes of the negotiations, which are in fact are still ongoing for the third hour already between the leaders, regardless of these outcomes, this visit is already historical and it will be historical not only because of their physical presence here, but also because the historical issues on the agenda. first and foremost, these are
The North Stream pipeline leaks are the most urgent illustration yet of something that Ukrainian environmentalist Svitlana Romanko has been saying all along: that fossil fuel dependence is not only deadly for the climate, but for national security as well.
provided to ukraine, it means that those who do not view it do not want it. and i m sure that. so, just all right, well, you re being very clear with me, so be even clearer, when you had your own meetings, because you were involved in some of the meetings just a few hours ago with these three, with macron, scholz, and draghi, did you say to them, it is unacceptable that europe still is giving every month hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars direct to putin s war machine through the purchase of russian gas ? because the europeans are talking about an oil embargo being phased in. they re not talking about a gas embargo. and if you look at the figures, in the recent analysis of what russia is getting for its fossil fuel exports, it amounts to billions and billions of dollars given directly from europe. does that have to stop?
victory of ukraine and regaining the territories. if we are speaking loud and clear, what we need for that and it s not provided to ukraine, it means that those who do not view it do not want it. and i m sure that. so, just all right, well, you re being very clear with me, so be even clearer, when you had your own meetings, because you were involved in some of the meetings just a few hours ago with these three, with macron, scholz and draghi, did you say to them, it is unacceptable that europe still is giving every month hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars direct to putin s war machine through the purchase of russian gas ? because the europeans are talking about an oil embargo being phased in. they re not talking about a gas embargo. and if you look at the figures, in the recent analysis of what russia is getting for its fossil fuel exports, it amounts to billions and billions of dollars given directly from europe. does that have to stop?