providing that the united states reserves and retains complete ownership, possession and control of presidential records. for more than a year, and despite multiple opportunities to remedied situation and return materials that rightly belong to the federal government, donald trump refused to cooperate time and time again. as we know now from the indictment unsealed by the department of justice yesterday, the former president and his personal valet, and now codefendants, walt nauta have both been indicted. trump along faces 31 counts of willful retention of national defense information, and one count of false statements. both men are also charged with one count each of his conspiracy to obstruct justice, withholding a document, corruptly concealing a document, concealing and documents in a federal investigation, and a scheme to conceal. not to has also in charge for making false statements. the government alleges in his indictment that it s not only a passive bystander that go
but i m extremely concerned and not confident at all, ali, that the u.s. government has actually recovered all of the documents unlawfully retained by the former president. remember, they have not executed a search warrants at bedminster, right? this focus is on bedminster, new jersey. so, no. the fact that a possible document referring to attack plans regarding iran or some other unnamed country is out in the wind and we don t know whether he was bluffing posting, making it up, whether the document really says what he claims, it s extremely disturbing and makes us wonder what else is out there? if you too can hang on with me, i want to take a quick break and come back. there s much more you want to get to. mary and frank. nd frank
tries to never take any action that could be perceived as politically motivated. but if you read this indictment, you really read this indictment, i don t care if you re republican, independent, or democrat there is nothing political in this indictment. this indictment is all about the facts. i assume, because that is the standard for the department of justice, these charges and these allegations would not be in the indictment unless the government feels it has evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt everything it allege there. this is just part different than any matter where the government could be accused of trying to but a thumb on the scale of an election. i think, in fairness, anyone who takes the time to read that will have to agree with that, regardless of what they say for their own political purposes. frank, the other thing i m concerned about, to mary s point, is we don t know who else these documents went to, who saw them, who got them
analyst and assistant director for counter intelligence with the fbi, an msnbc national security analyst, and the author of the fbi way, inside the bureau s code of excellence. good morning to both so you, thank you for being with us. frank, let me start with you, throughout his presidency, donald trump offered often travel to mar-a-lago and to his other properties like bedminster. it s well-known spot for him to spend time in and do work. now that we have more details from the indictment about how and where classified documents were handled and stored at mar-a-lago, what s your assessment regarding the actual national security risk or threat posed, not just by having the boxes there, because that part we can see on the camera, but the passage that i just read that indicates that donald trump knew they were there, knew he wasn t supposed to have them, and was clearly talking to people about them. you know, ali, as someone who spent 25 years of my career trying to protect and preser
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