analyst and -- assistant director for counter intelligence with the fbi, an msnbc national security analyst, and the author of the fbi way, inside the bureau's code of excellence. good morning to both so you, thank you for being with us. frank, let me start with you, throughout his presidency, donald trump offered often travel to mar-a-lago and to his other properties like bedminster. it's well-known spot for him to spend time in and do work. now that we have more details from the indictment about how and where classified documents were handled and stored at mar-a-lago, what's your assessment regarding the actual national security risk or threat posed, not just by having the boxes there, because that part we can see on the camera, but the passage that i just read that indicates that donald trump knew they were there, knew he wasn't supposed to have them, and was clearly talking to people about them. >> you know, ali, as someone who spent 25 years of my career trying to protect and preserve