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give it to us. gretchen: let s take a look. i think you got one that can come on the screen. this is from bernard tune, formerly biden s chief of staff. it went to the chief executive officer of bright source and he says, calls are in to biden s staff and i will be approaching the political affairs office at the white house tomorrow as well as this project could benefit two senators who are in the cycle process. whose races will be tough next year. that would be senator bob boxer of california, majority leader senator reid. clearly emmitt at that to go pull political strings on behalf of a again energy company trying to get $1.6 billion of taxpayer money. they got it, by the way. steve: i think a lot of us kind of know this kind of thing is going on in washington, d.c. and has for a long time. but never this level. it s precise and obvious, wasn t it? we re going to make the calls, you ll get the money. here is how we ll get the taxpayers money for you. not based on private en
but the fact of the matter is, i think he could have done much better had he dispensed with all the smirking and the facial things that he was doing during that debate. brian: angela, it seemed like the chairman ryan had almost like a sly smile on. did that hurt him? no, it didn t hurt him. i wish he would have had more time to explain himself. the moderator was not fair to him. in the beginning, she wasn t. for biden, he was the attack dog. if it was his purpose to energize the democratic base, he did do that last night, but joe, you guys should be worried that less than four weeks before the election, you re utilizing your vp of your party to energize your base. this was to get independents. it s going to be independents that s going to decide who our next president is. i don t think that biden did that last night. i believe that undecided voters are still undecided. angela, i don t think that s right. i don t think they re going after independents. i think they were going afte