abuse power? with no real dates on this is the abuse? we are going to give you abuse of power, go home, pick something you don t like about the president, and there is your abuse of power. not just because they don t like the president, they don t like us. they don t like the 63 million people who voted for this president. and they dislike us so much they re willing to weaponize the government. two years ago was the irs, more recently the fbi, and now the impeachment power of congress. laura: joining me and i was ken starr, former whitewater independent counsel, fox news contributor, along with robert ray, who succeeded ken as whitewater independent counsel. you both have seen this process up close and personal. can, let me start with you. what do you make of what has unfolded tonight, and in the days and weeks preceding, given what we are facing now, with these two articles of impeachment? the democrats have searched so hard, under every rock, for a
join with us. if you want to but this country first, we have a place for you and you can join us to do something different instead of just investigate. more subpoenas then you have laws. name me one problem they have solved since they ve taken the majority. they ve only taken us down a path that has divided a nation instead of uniting us. laura: i m looking forward to the next few days. i really am. congressman, thank you. you take care. i want to do now is take you through the democrats impeachment report. charge by charge. we will let our legal eagles break it all down. robert ray, former whitewater independent counsel. he knows a thing or two. and alan dershowitz. author of the book guilt by accusation. the first key finding in the house until report claims that trump solicited the interference of a foreign government, ukraine, in the 2020 u.s. presidential election to benefit himself, politically. did the inquiry and the findings
diplomatic bureaucracy to serve indefinitely. they elect a president to head the entire executive branch and our current president has the right to have the ambassadors and staff that he believes is best s interest. it s his goal. because she is missed that pompeo and other high-ranking officials didn t stop everything they were doing to start a petition drive on her behalf, that s beside the point read whatever you think, it certainly has no bearing whatsoever on impeachment. adam schiff has struggled to float this lead balloon for months now and today it anywhere. that s the angle. joining me now, jonni smith, senior fellow at the claymont interest unit due to an constitutional collar, robert ray, former whitewater independent counsel. john, i want to start with you. democrats say it provided no proof. you see an impeachable offense here after these two days? i don t.
congressman meadows and stewart, we appreciate you being here. we need to shut this down, laura. it s time. it s clear the democrats are throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. now they want to convince you, the american people that playing a game of telephone is exactly the type of evidence we need. i think the american public needs to be reminded that countless people have been convicted on hearsay, because the courts have routinely allowed and created, needed exceptions to hearsay. hearsay can be much better evidence than direct, as we have learned in painful instances and certainly valid in this instance. joining me now ken starr, former whitewater independent counsel and andy mccarthy, former assistant u.s. attorney. both gentlemen are now fox news contributors. ken, i get that hearsay evidence can be used, we all know that in criminal cases but is that an acceptable standard to undo the election of an american president under our representative democracy and o
is. laura: oh, is it? here is what sondland actually said about quid pro quo. he said that i, i said the resumption of usa would likely not occur until ukraine provided public anticorruption occurred. i still do not know why or by whom the aide was present in, but i assumed the aide had become linked to the proposed anticorruption statement. in other words, he was offering something called an opinion to the ukrainians about why military aid was held up. gentlemen, congressman devin nunes, ranking member of the house intel committee, and robert ray, former whitewater independent counsel. congressmen, let s start with you. are the democrats comfortable impeaching a president on presumed secondhand facts? well, they continue to ride roughshod over reality to fit their cult they are having down