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Terms and then we re talking about adding another $3-$10 trillion. i think the important discussion last night was the one about entitlement reform where we saw some of the candidates getting into there. jenna: that s been one of the complaints about these flat tax proposals, they re not going to help when it comes to the budget and the deficit. let me take a quick commercial. when we come back, we re going to talk about the plans you all think we should pay attention to in the weeks and months ahead. we ll be right back. ....
Middle class and say here, here s more money, child tax credits, things like that. the problem that rubio is going to have is that when that is placed next to for instance, very simple flat tax proposals by some of the other candidates it does potentially look a little bit complicated and old-fashioned and not bold enough. but kim, doesn t it look more electable? when you ve got ted cruz out there saying put it all on a postage card, that s your tax return, that is a radical proposal. behind this, the argument behind rubio s thing is that we need to make a pitch to middle class voters, they don t really care about income tax cuts on the top rates but they ll like it if they get more child tax credit money. the problem that rubio has and ....
The problem that rubio is going to have is that when that is placed next to, for instance, very simple flat tax proposals by some of the other candidates, it does potentially look a little bit complicated and old-fashioned and not bold enough. but kim doesn t it look more electable? when you ve got ted cruz out there saying put it all on a postage card, that s your tax return, that is a radical proposal. behind this, the argument behind rubio s thing is that we need to make a pitch to middle class voters, they don t really care about income tax cuts on the top rates but they ll like it if they get more child tax credit money. the problem that rubio has and the party has in going down that road is you cannot out-pander the democrats on tax credits. hillary clinton is always going to be able to outbid him. who is more electable then? kim calls it pandering. i call it moderation because i think most republicans want to win above all else. just think, a general point. on the republ ....
That wall street and actually democrats and republicans like which is this idea of getting rid of too big to fail. right. he oddly i don t know if it s odd or not. the book would remain. he wants to keep the book, the movie. there was a provision in dodd/frank that would allow you to dismantle the failing banks. he wants to get rid of that. he says that, in fact, make it more likely we ll bail out banks in the future. one thing wall street is aware of, in the ryan budget, look at flat tax proposals and medicare proposal, that s a lot of money off the table. when he talked about removing all those deductions, those deductions were put in place so rich people can keep their money. right. i think there is some ease without knowing the full scoring of that budget, how long it would play out. where you re taking money that people invest off the table and to cover those medicare costs, you re becauasically presuming people are going to take put of 401(k), out of savings. it s ....
Should be entirely flat. we started looking into the details of the 999 plan. rick perry, we didn t have a policy conversation. bachmann, we didn t have a policy conversation but as a policy person, that mattered. he has had a pernicious effect. he has played the role of john edwards in this republican primary. i don t mean in that way. as you made a sad face. i guess i should distinguish. he has played the role of john edwards in in way, that the john edwards campaign released a whole bunch of quite progressive substantive policy proposals that were then aped by some of those other campaigns. you had a hand in that. i feel like the 999 campaign caught fire and we have seen a string of flat tax proposals by rick perry and jon huntsman. ....