should be entirely flat. we started looking into the details of the 999 plan. rick perry, we didn't have a policy conversation. bachmann, we didn't have a policy conversation but as a policy person, that mattered. >> he has had a pernicious effect. he has played the role of john edwards in this republican primary. i don't mean in that way. as you made a sad face. i guess i should distinguish. he has played the role of john edwards in in way, that the john edwards campaign released a whole bunch of quite progressive substantive policy proposals that were then aped by some of those other campaigns. you had a hand in that. i feel like the 999 campaign caught fire and we have seen a string of flat tax proposals by rick perry and jon huntsman.