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first federal president to ever surrender to authorities. first former president ever be fingerprinted by authorities and first to go before a federal magistrate for arrest and arraignment and face years in prison. if convicted. and jake, of course after pleading not guilty to all counts, it seemed to be back to business as usual for trump. making a campaign style stop at a restaurant just moments after he left a courthouse. posting for photos with well-wishers. even had a group literally praying over him as he was there in the restaurant alongside his codefendant walt nauta. from there is back to bedminster for a fund-raiser. a fund-raiser in a speech. we are not carrying that speech live. in a moment, we will play a short portion of it one that gives you a look into his state of mind and how he is trying to frame his defense to his supporters. joined now by new york democratic congresswoman and house oversight committee member alexandra ocasio-cortez. thank you for ....
Political rival arrested? do they actually believe that? who knows. they obviously don t care whether or not they put things on their air that they believe or that they don t believe. that s what was shown. having spent, i guess it was six years at the justice department, and ford headquarters, just declare something up in terms of the relationship between the white house and prosecutors when cases go on. there s actually a wall between the white house and rank and file prosecutors. i remember meetings where, you know, if the white house folks around you send them out, or don t even invite them toward killers. is that even more so if it s a special counsel? more so that s the whole point of the appointment of the special counsel. was to take away this notion that it was the white house, or even the attorney general, who was pulling the strings on the prosecution. so this idea that merrick garland or joe biden or these puppeteers, calling the shots on a prosecution. that is si ....
i turned around and said that is fake. it seemed so over the top. that i thought it was unbelievable. and to that point this very illustrious panel of lawyers, no, you and me, you violate out the facts here. about this belonged to the archives. and that he if he had given them back, it would ve been fine. there s one problem with all of this. donald trump has convinced his supporters that that is not true. and if there s one thing donald trump is good at, it is branding. and he has said it over and over and over again. one of the questions though, given the fact that fox had to pay a 787. 5 million dollar settlement to dominion for spearing lies about the election, one wonders, do they believe this? do they believe that joe biden is a wannabe dictator, who just had his ....
National archives, or whether it was the justice department asking him. or, then it was a person to a subpoena. if he would ve just given them back, we wouldn t be here. george? yeah, more to kari s point, the conservatives made a big deal about appointing people who are textualists to the bench, people who follow the text of the statute and don t make things up. don t read things into the statute that they wish were there. here s what the statute says. 20 202, section 22 ota, the presidential records act. the united states shall reserve and can obtain complete ownership, possession, and contain presidential records. some with provision to this chapter. then it says that when the president, at when the president leaves office, it says that the national archives and records administration will take control of the presidents files. and records. immediately. is this a clear cut case, do you think, elliott? on this point, yes. it s not ....
Only that. it s all on inauguration day. the moment the next presidential is signed in. all of those files, wherever they are in the world, not even just in the united states, immediately become property of the national records and archives association. it s not something you can wish way out of existence. it s just a fact. then beyond that point, sort of if you give the documents back, we would not have been here. as is evident with the case of mike pence. who number one, voluntarily conducted and opened up a search into his own files, and then number two, complied with all requests from the justice department and national records and archives administration once he did. had trump done any of that going back a year, i m quite confident that he just would have not face criminal charges. can we just add to that to cover off on the espionage act point. the espionage act is big. it has more things in it than just traditional cloak and dagger spying. it definitely ....