reporters at length. we re going to tell you what he said, and what it means for this evening because mccarthy and president biden are meeting again at 5:30, face to face at the white house. keep an eye on what each side says coming out of that meeting, the third one in as many weeks. if they can t start coming together now, when will they? because although we say eight working days, that doesn t mean a deal and a bill and a vote will happen overnight. marking it up, debating it, signing off on it all take time even when congress is trying to go quickly, and according to treasury secretary, janet yellen, there isn t exactly wiggle room. june 1st is a hard deadline, she told meet the press over the weekend, even invoking the 14th amendment would take time, which by the way, yellen says would be potentially inappropriate and legally uncertain. so what would be left, aside from defaulting? again, watch what comes out of this meeting. house democrats have 210 vote for their dis
default on january 1st, if a deal is not reached on the debt ceiling. the pressure weighing on president biden and house speaker kevin mccarthy ahead of their next meeting which is now just hours away. our nbc news reporters are following all of the latest developments. i want to go to first nbc s garrett haake on capitol hill ahead of the critical meeting between biden and mccarthy. we just heard from mccarthy moments ago. what did he have to say? reporter: this comes after negotiators from the white house had been meeting for three hours this morning. mccarthy took some questions from reporters about the outlines of these negotiations and i asked him specifically what he would need to see to feel like there was real progress today in his meeting with the president. here s what he told me. decisions have to start being made. it s been days now. the president has to be serious. i have been very clear from the very beginning, we are in this problem because when the democra
for the nomination or a race for second place. with senator tim scott having formally launched his campaign today, nbc news reports quote, the sudden burst of activity reflects several realities for the early stages of the gop contest. the idea of renominating trump who according to polls is far and away from the front runner does not sit well with a sizable part of the party, and desantis, as the top trump alternative has failed to strengthen his position in the lead up to his announcement which is prompting others to ponder campaigns. henry gomez, senior national political reporter of msnbc news, and republican strategist, and msnbc political analyst, susan del percio. henry, this is so interesting, the trump people you talked to made it clear they think there is, of course, the ex-president at the stop, and everybody else is fighting for table scraps. what else did they tell you?
race, and sees a space for him as well. but he could be competing with guys like chris sununu, like chris christie for that lane, adding up, perhaps, to this 10% number that the trump people want to see from a third or fourth candidate. yeah, susan, conventional wisdom says the larger field helps trump. you were telling me something interesting in the break. you think the key here for a real challenge to trump might be chris christie, not necessarily that he would win, right, but? he s the one who takes on trump. he s the one who lodges all the attacks, so, for example, someone like tim scott looks good with his forward-looking message, his inspirational message, and he doesn t have to get down in the gutter. and trump can t help himself. if you attack him, he is going to focus on you with a laser. and christie knows the president pretty bell, better, for example, than ron desantis, he knows how to get to the former
well, chris, the one number i have been hearing again and again as i talk to people in trump world, or supportive of the former president is 10%. if there s a third candidate in this race who can achieve 10% of the primary vote, you know, you have trump, which is 35 to 40%, desantis in the double digits, possibly above 20. get one more candidate in there with about 10%, and it s over. trump s the nominee. that s how they re approaching this expanding field. it all cuts into the not trump support. though trump wouldn t end up with a majority of the primary vote, he would end up with a decisive enough plurality, and the more the merrier as far as the trump folks are concerned. they see tim scott getting in, does he hit the 10%. and pence, the former vice president, can he achieve the 10%. you re also seeing more than you have over the last few weeks and months of this race, more and more names being tossed into the