thomas webster perhaps going behind bars for any other january 6th defendant. nbc news confirming a court appearance for pat cipollone and pat philbin set to go in front of the grand jury in washington. the mississippi water crisis bad to worse, telling people to shower with their mouths closed. businesses still closed. students still learning remotely. the fema administrator will join us live later in the show about what is being done on the federal level to fix it. i m hallie jackson in washington. with me nbc news correspondent vaughn hill lard in west palm beach, ken dilanian, washington correspondent for the new york times and msnbc contributor charlie savage and former u.s. attorney and msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade is joining us too. vaughn, start with you on the ground there outside the building where all the action is going down. bring us up to speed on what we need to know and what happens next? hallie, i was talking with our colleagues maria and mar
down claims by trump s attorney that this was a case about records that belonged to trump saying that the documents were not his to have. for her part, judge kennan is at times inclined to order a review of documents into a a special master. quote, justice department attorneys repeatedly pleaded with cannon not to interrupt their ongoing criminal probe that the search warrant excused on august 8th was clearly valid and authorized to obtain evidence of three significant federal crimes. cannon said she was concerned about a couple of instances in which the investigative team had flagged potentially privileged material that was not screened out during the initial review of records. that s the team that was assigned to prevent such occurrences. judge cannon did say that she would unseal a more detailed list by agents at mar-a-lago meaning that we could learn a whole lot more about that extraordinary search. while we await, it is important to put it in broader context. new york
Interesting to note that it was the trump team that wants this to be made public, because they are seeking to have a better understanding of what one could say they re trying to defend the former president against here. because it was a trump lawyer and a custodian of his records who, on june 3rd, signed a sworn affidavit that all relevant documents had been turned over to the department of justice. it s not clear whether that signature was signed on the dotted lines with the understanding that, truly, all the documents under their belief had actually been turned over or not, but what we know from this filing is that more than double the number of classified materials have been seized by the fbi compared to the number of records willingly turned over by trump and his team on june 3rd here. we do not have a determination from the judge about whether a special master will be appointed here or not. the trump team is trying to make the case, and it s important to note they do have a new la
Lawyers and legal counsel misrepresent the facts and what was he so determined to do with them? i think that is the question. i think aside from the motive, the facts are very damning of donald trump including on the obstruction of justice front because it s clear that he knew when he was doing is wrong and coming up with these cockamamie explanning as about declassifying things when he took them out of the white house, that makes no sense whatsoever and again, i think he now has run out of the nine lives that he s had as far as skirting the law. former director of the cia john brennan and tom winter. thank you both so much for starting us off on this story. everyone else sticks around. when we come back just in the last few minutes a judge has handed down the longest sentence yet to one of the hundreds of people charged with attacking the u.s. capitol on january 6th. a former nypd officer facing
Imposing the sentence saying webster constructed an alternate truth. the cancer that was everything about donald trump s leadership has clearly included this pen chant to lying even in an institution, even in a courtroom where your future will be determined by a judge and jury. and what we see captured just in indisputable black and white today is the fact that lying to court, lying during a legal from seeding doesn t end well. that it s a great way to make your situation that s bad become even worse. we sort of are having an instance of instant consequences here as a report of not just of the violence and the deranged attack that this person perpetrated, but also very specifically because of the lie this he told. the other signal that this