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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20211025 02:54:00

To work that out. as you say what s happening now is you have an illiberal government ordering the judiciary to fall in line with its views. that s very different from the democratic states that helped found the eu. the tension between whose laws reigned supreme, is that the nation or is it the supranational institution of the ecj? that has been a fundamental tension within this block almost from its founding time. over the last 60 years there s been an informal agreement that indeed ecj rulings reigned supreme. that they take primacy over national law. this was long before poland ever had eu membership as a twinkle in their own eye. this is what it signed up to, even though it had other exemptions, and these are the rules that it knew were in play. the eu also stumbled on its own when it went about it maybe 13, 14 years ago. they had a chance in the lisbon treaty to write that in explicitly. that eu law took precedence ....

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20211025 02:50:00

Of what all the other eu i countries, most of them, not all of them. - look what happened next. the liberal people pushed the liberal law that was i absolutely needed, and. isn t the point that. that s exactly the point, that came from the nation state, not from brussels saying no, this is not european. the ecj is a very important institution which is why- it is resented. because people don t - like itsjudgements and often they are based on things that are above nations . and all of that. one of the things that. needs to be remembered is that there is a younger population in poland. - we have met some polish people in france who live in france - although earning less - because the polish economy is extraordinarily- successful at the moment. we asked them why, - and they said because here ....

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20211024 10:51:00

That came from the nation state, not from brussels saying, no, this is not european. the ecj is a very important institution which is - why it is resented. because people don t - like itsjudgements and often they are based on things that - are above nations and all of that. one of the things that. needs to be remembered is that there is a younger population in poland. - we have met some polish people in france who live in france - although earning less - because the polish economy is extraordinarily- successful at the moment. we asked them why, and they said, because here we have rights. - and we like having rights. so you see, the young will change things. - so don t be too pessimistic. maria, michel barnier, who a lot of people in brussels ....

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Transcripts for BBCNEWS Dateline London 20211024 01:54:00

And there are ways to work that out. as you say what s happening now if you say what s happening now is to have an illiberal government ordering the judiciary to fall in line with its views. that s very different from the democratic states that helped found the eu. the tension between whose laws reigned supreme, is that the nation or is it the supranational institution of the ecj? that has been a fundamental tension within this block almost from its founding time. over the last 60 years there s been an informal agreement that indeed ecj rulings reigned supreme. that they take primacy over national law. this was long before poland ever had eu membership as a twinkle in their own eye. this is what it signed up to even though it had other exemptions and these are the rules that it knew were in play. the eu also stumbled on its own when it went about it maybe 13, 14 years ago. they had a chance in the lisbon treaty to write that in explicitly. that eu law took precedence over national law. ....

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