Im stephen sackur. President Robert Mugabe of zimbabwe is 93 years old. His wife recently suggested he could win re election as a corpse. But failing that, zimbabwe needs to grapple with the issue of succession. And will follow mugabe . My guest is his former Vice President and one time heir apparentjoice mujuru. She broke away from the ruling party two years ago and now leads her own opposition party, but how tainted is she by her Long Association with Robert Mugabe . Joice mujuru, welcome to hardtalk. Thank you. How can you persuade the zimbabwean people that you are an agent of change when for most of your adult life youve been one of Robert Mugabes most loyal allies and associates . Thank you very much. The way how i left zanu pf did not go down well with the rest of the country, because i never replied, i never did anything. But they know me, even during the Robert Mugabe government, that as much as i was loyal to my party, which i fought for, i was also loyal to zimbabweans becau
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