you've known him for ten years. i asked her the question about joe lieberman and i said did that hurt you at all? and she said i've never been one to lie and she said "it did a bit." she called it a gut punch which was telling talking to her. we talked for a couple minutes and she was very open. she said it's been several months since she talked with the senator. she said she's in touch with cindy, her husband and well and she's on an e-mail basis with megan. she was here for a fund raiser in d.c., they have still got a property in phoenix that they still spend time at but it was interesting reflections on her part, those two have not -- she was never disparaged -- never disparaged john mccain and when trump called out john mccain as not being a war hero because he was captured, at that time she came out swiftly and called mccain and donald trump heroes.
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