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here it comes. a tough thing to go through and her involvement in the doll test started conversations on race with family, friends, even colleagues. you ve got to talk about it. it will be uncomfortable for people but that s where the real learning takes place. i could even be president. do you want to be president eleanor? yeah. one conversation at a time. well, tomorrow we ll revisit another family that is making changes in the way they talk about race. i talked to a 5-year-old after she took her doll test. here s what she told me about dark skin. i just don t like the way ....
show me the good child. this one. okay. why is he the good child? he looks good. show me the child who has the skin color most children don t like? pretty striking stuff. this is all part of a pilot study that we commissioned designed and the results analyzed by renowned child psychologist and researcher in margaret beale spencer. she s a leader in the field. she ll be joining the discussion a little bit later. spencer s team of psychologists tested more than 130 kids in eight different schools, half in the north, half in the south. now, the schools had very specific and very different racial and economic demographics. and there were two different ages of kids tested, 4 and 5-year-olds and 9 and 10-year-olds. and two races, african-american and white. this was first done in a series, a very famous doll test from the 1940s. two psychologists pioneered studies on the effects of segregation and discrimination in schools by asking ....
Child. and why is she the good looking child? because she has light skin. show me the good child. this one. why is he the good child? he looks good. show me the child who has the skin color most children don t like. pretty striking stuff. this is all part of a pilot study that we commissioned designed, and the results analyzed by a renowned child researcher. she s with us in the audience tonight. she s a leader in the field. she ll be joining the discussion a little bit later. spencer s team tested 130 kids in eight different schools, half in the north, half in the south. now, the schools had very specific and very different racial and economic demographics. there were two different ages of kids tested. 4 and 5-year-olds and 9 and 10-year-olds. and two races, african-american and white. now, this was first done in a series, a very famous doll test from the 1940s. two psychologists named kenneth ....
That has your skin color? that one. okay. show me the child that has the skin color you want. that one. okay. show me the child who has the skin color you don t want. show me the child you would like as a classmate. all of them. you like all of them as classmates? mm-hmm. why do you say all of them? because i don t really care what color they have. it s interesting. that brings us to the second big finding from the survey that black kids also have a bias toward white, but much less so than white kids. the research suggests black kids have come a long way from the original doll test when they overwhelmingly chose white over black. the pilot study was designed by child psychologist professor margaret beale spencer. she s with us, as well as donna brazile, and po bronson. donna, what do you make of that? ....
because she has light skin. show me the good child. this one. why is he the good child? he looks good. show me the child who has the skin color most children don t like. pretty striking stuff. this is all part of a pilot study that we commissioned designed, and the results analyzed by a renowned child researcher. she s with us in the audience tonight. she s a leader in the field. she ll be joining the discussion a little bit later. spencer s team tested 130 kids in eight different schools, half in the north, half in the south. now, the schools had very specific and very different racial and economic demographics. there were two different ages of kids tested. 4 and 5-year-olds and 9 and 10-year-olds. and two races, african-american and white. now, this was first done in a series, a very famous doll test from the 1940s. two psychologists named kenneth and maime clark pioneered a study in schools by asking african-american kids to choose ....