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Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20191204 11:21:00

he shakes up alliances. he somehow believes that s good statesmanship, and what i ve seen the last year is foreign governments beginning to hedge against the uncertainty, the kind of erratic swinging phenomenon that is donald trump. so how are they hedging? the united arab emirates and the saudi arabia and the gulf are beginning to think about their own security policies. they re getting much closer to china, getting much closer to russia. the uae is even beginning to find ways to talk directly to iran. in nato, france is saying effectively when macron says nato is brain dead, he means we can t really rely on america the way we used to with the brain at the center of our alliance, we just don t trust, don t have confidence in. so they re beginning to hedge, and i think, you know, if mika s dad was here, that phenomenon of a world that doesn t trust america beginning to look for

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