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couldn t really comment on that. but overall, is couldn t really comment on that. but overall, is this fair, you may not use those words, you perhaps might not have so much to do with lord sedwill as he is now, but the general theme of lack of leadership and chaos, if you like, is one that you agree with? and chaos, if you like, is one that you agree with? yes. let s move on. i want to ask you agree with? yes. let s move on. i want to ask you you agree with? yes. let s move on. i want to ask you about the discussions around the first lockdown decision, and if we could start by going to page eight of your witness statement. we see there the heading, and then did strategy, nationwide lockdown. that is the description, isn t it, of the change from the mitigation strategy to the lockdown, suppression strategy that we have heard a great deal about in the last few weeks. and we ve also heard from other witnesses, and we will hear from others, about that series of meetings that

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