harris: it seems like we ve reached a tipping point, some would call a time for a game change in terms of the messaging. where would you put it? juan: it s a moment of crisis, not only for the white house, but for the american people. this morning just in conversations with people at the gym, i get the sense of this is across party lines. people say something has gone way, way out of line here. the president and his statement on i guess it was monday, people say, he didn t seem very heartfelt. that s the right thing to say, let s move on. that s on the political basis, but then to have him come back yesterday and say what i meant or what i didn t say on saturday, that s fine. that was a fine statement, the fact that it was delayed, the fact that i said anything, the fact that i went on and said this, then you get the response
five innocent black and hispanic teenagers of rape. he was convicting them, you know, before they d even had a trial. that s right. this is the same person who led the birtherism crusade was the most visible face of that crusade. for more than a decade now, he s been a public face of racism. so for him to suddenly say, well, guys, this is too much would be a little bit, you know, problematic. he is doing the work of white supremacy in his office. i m less concerned with what he says than what he does. there s been plenty of political reaction on both sides of the aisle to what the president didn t say on saturday, and then additionally to what he said today. but i do want to go back to susan bro, heather heyer s mother, because i do think that if heather heyer had survived this, we would all want to hear from her tonight. but we can t. i want to hear more from heather heyer s mother, susan bro, and what she said about her daughter.
a supporter of his, jeff dewitt from arizona, he was on earlier and he said it is a voice of the frustration that the president feels and the direction the conversation is going where everyone needs to be focused on attacking and condemning these hate groups. i appreciated that additional statement say thag is where the focus should be. yeah. we have to get beyond the twitter feed to get that going. that s the problem, kate. i watched that interview. i thought he was right. he s right that the president should have done and said more. the difficulty here is that we are now, you know, on tuesday talking about what he sort of said on monday and definitely didn t say on saturday. this is the president of the united states, you don t get three swings at things as it related to moments like this, moments of real leadership that require moral clarity. you can clarify.
i m less concerned with what he says than what he does. there s been plenty of political reaction on both sides of the aisle to what the president didn t say on saturday, and then additionally to what he said today. but i do want to go back to susan bro, heather heyer s mother, because i do think that if heather heyer had survived this, we would all want to hear from her tonight. but we can t. i want to hear more from heather heyer s mother, susan bro, and what she said about her daughter. i m extremely proud of my daughter. i m extremely proud that she stood for what she believed in, that she not only gave mouth to it, but she gave heart to it. she gave soul to it. and now she s given her life to it. and the day she passed away was the day of the meteor showers that we used to go out and watch every year when she was a little girl. so my child is now flying with the meteors, and i love her, and i miss her so, so much.
he has instigated. he has incited. he s created a climate. they say it. this isn t the liberal media. this is the members of these groups who are saying it. to me the only metric which we can john trump on is not does he suddenly become a moral leader because he s not going to be as bill kristol said. does he pour gasoline on the fire and do we see another vent like this and when it does, we need to dig deep into the groups. how they talk to themselves, how they spread their messages and are they citing the white house and donald trump? do they hear what he said today? or what he said on saturday? i think they hear what he said on saturday and what he didn t say on saturday. this will look to them like capitulati capitulation, political correctness on saturday. his true feelings wither on saturday and i predict they ll go out and sooner rather than later we ll have another incident like this and we can say that the president is in