deterrent, using cruelty to children as a policy tool. and the consequences are going to be lifelong. and this is what congressional oversight looks like. this is a very good choice by the democrats, to highlight this, because it gets lost in all the rhetoric about the wall and open borders and all of this sort of thing, that in fact you have a man-made, administration-created, humanitarian nightmare that is not over. you ve covered congress, you talk to these people all the time. diane degette from colorado doesn t do things lightly. she is going to really try to get to the bottom of this. as she told rachel maddow last night, they may never get to the bottom of this because they weren t keeping records before april. exactly. before a court ordered them to. to charlie s point, this is a massive scandal hiding in plain sight. this is why democrats are starting here with their congressional oversight.
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are getting disrespected by the white house, if they re getting the access that their numbers indicate they should. you re right about the numbers, if the stupak language had been in the bill, we think about 50-plus members would have absolutely said no to health care reform. so they did have to listen to us, and what they did yesterday seems a million years ago, yesterday morning, was to put in our hands at the very same time that bart stupak saw the language, the proposed language that the white house had for the executive order. so we were in one room with a lawyer from the white house. they were in another room with a lawyer from the white house discussing what the language was. so they didn t see it before, so there was no negotiation with the white house before. we each saw that language. diane degette who is the chair of the pro-choice caucus, she s an attorney, and so we certainly had the firepower on our side as
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are being disrespected by the white house, if they re getting the access that their numbers indicate they should. you re right about the numbers, by the way. if the stupak language had been in the bill, we think about 50-plus members would have absolutely said no to health care reform. so they did have to listen to us, and what they did yesterday seems a million years ago, yesterday morning was to put our hands at the very same time that bart stupak saw the language, the proposed language that the white house had for the executive order. so we were in one room with a lawyer from the white house. they were in another room with a lawyer from the white house discussing what the language was. so they didn t see it before us, there was no negotiation with the white house before. we each saw that language. diane degette who is the chair of the pro-choice caucus, she s an attorney, and so we certainly had the firepower on our side as well. and while we did recommend some
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last night those 10,000 men fell. good night, and good luck. and now it is my pleasure to introduce my very dear friend rachel maddow. rachel, good evening. keith, good evening, and i can t tell you how good it is to see you in that chair and to have you back. great to see you. thank you. thanks to you at home for staying with us for the next hour. we begin tonight in little rock, arkansas, southwest of washington, d.c. a long way both geographically and politically from our nation s capital. i can tell you what happened last night in d.c. shook the proverbial ground even here on the banks of the arkansas river. this morning i spoke at an event at the clinton school of public service here in little rock, and before i took the stage, before i was even being introduced, skip rutherford, the dean of the school, said to the crowd that what had happened on capitol hill last night was an historic vote. what followed, to everybody s surprise, was the entire room at 9:00 a.m. o
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