are being disrespected by the white house, if they're getting the access that their numbers indicate they should. >> you're right about the numbers, by the way. if the stupak language had been in the bill, we think about 50-plus members would have absolutely said no to health care reform. so they did have to listen to us, and what they did yesterday seems a million years ago, yesterday morning was to put our hands at the very same time that bart stupak saw the language, the proposed language that the white house had for the executive order. so we were in one room with a lawyer from the white house. they were in another room with a lawyer from the white house discussing what the language was. so they didn't see it before us, there was no negotiation with the white house before. we each saw that language. diane degette who is the chair of the pro-choice caucus, she's an attorney, and so we certainly had the firepower on our side as well. and while we did recommend some