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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110807:21:23:00

Because of a dramatic event right before closing arguments. art ream was talking a plea, courtroom top secret. they cleared out the courtroom, told us all to leave and i just happened to notice that the judge said to one of the bailiffs, you need to make sure that the entire back room is cleared out, nobody can be in my chambers, nobody can overhear this. and then i put two and two together. amber hunt figured it out and would later be the first to report that an 11th hour plea deal had been in the works. lawyers from both sides and the zarzycki family were summoned to judge s chambers. we want to talk to you. he wants to make an agreement. ream told his lawyer he didn t murder cindy, but he could reveal where she was buried in exchange for a reduced charge and a lesser sentence. he doesn t tell me where it is, but he tells me that he knows. defense attorney kohler then asked detective derek mclaughlin for help. i said you ve got to work the deal, though. the defense la ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110807:21:37:00

mac pulls it off beautifully, and it was almost like someone hit art in the jaw with a right cross because he didn t see it coming, totally got him off guard. and i think he stews on it and a week later, come on back, i m going to give you a map, huh? yeah, that s exactly what happened. i think mac was masterful in what he did and it worked out better than we could have hoped. it didn t take long and i think he realized that he didn t hold the trump card anymore, he wasn t going to control mac or this situation anymore. he had lost control of that part of it. and gave mac the information. jen, you get a call, we ve got a map? i think i was done packing before we hung up the phone. later at the jail, the bottle cam caught ream handing his attorney a hand-drawn map. in the crudely drawn map, ream marks cindy s burial spot with an x near a river about 25 feet from bridge, he wrote. ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110807:20:30:00

That personally called me. what was your gut telling you? well, you had to check it out because you just never knew. and i checked every one of them out. cindy s family recognized this new detective on the case was different. he was taking it to heart, just as they did. as i got to know him better, he wasn t going to work on the case, he was going to find cindy. and finding cindy or her body if it came to that was paramount to a family frozen in uncertainty, unable to mourn and move ahead. could mac find connie s sister? it wasn t even a case number to him. she was my sister, his sister, my dad and mom s daughter. after a few years on the case, mac got a call from art ream s ex-wife, linda. she had some news. art ream was back in prison for raping a child. this time he was convicted of criminal sexual conduct. ream was going nowhere. the detective would have time to come up with a strategy for ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110807:21:34:00

this is a whole new strategy. yeah. it went against mac s gut to play nonchalant about what he cared for most, finding cindy s body, but he went with his boss suggestion to try a new tactic. be brusque and dismissive. he hoped ream would get flustered and produce a new map. and that would lead to cindy. a few weeks after the trial and conviction, mac had a jailhouse meeting with ream in a visitor s room by himself. the detective recorded the interview with a camera concealed inside a plastic bottle. right away, mac laid down the new law. the case is done. i have closure with it. the family has closure. do we want cindy back? absolutely. but everybody s okay. so all i want to do today is basically get information as to where cindy s remains are. i don t want to talk about anything else today. ream, as he had so often before, tried to change the conversation. so you really don t care what happened? ....

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20110807:21:00:00

he was actually even joking a lot with us on the way home. yelling at the truckers for not driving well and laughing with us. jen may have been the one in the car intrigued most by psychology and the criminal mind, but it was mac who had the idea for the head game they were about to play on art ream. they d make a stop before the police station at the cemetery where ream s son, scott, had been buried 13 years before. mac told his partner to pull over at a flower shop, he bought a dozen daisies, and threw them in the backseat. and so he gets out of the car. we ve got him in belly chains and leg guards and he s scuffling up there to the grave site and he starts crying. i said here, why don t you put some flowers on your kid s grave, make it look nice. we saw he was sort of at a weak point there, emotional, sad, and we re standing over his son s grave. and i said art, you could bury your son, you ve got that closure, you laid your son to rest. can t you do the same for the zarzyck ....

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