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Footnote by the time this week is over. Part of that depends on Fulton County d. A. Fani willis. Shes been telling local reporters, quote, some people may not be happy with my decisions and says the local sheriffs putting up Security Barriers is a smart move. Well get the latest from georgia in a minutes. The New York Times calls it a month in hell for the City Of Phoenix. 31 Straight Days of temperatures over 110. Hospitals still overwhelmed. Billions lost in the economy nationwide. The poor suffering the most among the millions made miserable by the heat. Formering Governor John Kasich says his fellow republicans need to wake up to the threat of Climate Change. Why are so few heeding the call . We start in florida where the world got its first glimpse at maralago Property Manager carlos de oliveira, the name forever added to the list of alleged coconspirators alongside donald trump. De oliveira accused of trying to help trump delete Video Evidence and lying to investigators. The 56ye

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Transcripts for MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports 20240604 17:05:00

Lawyer. america is getting this wonderful education in the federal legal process. i don t view to have a lawyer barred in the southern district of florida. people are sometimes indicted and do have to find a local lawyer. but both of these defendants, de oliveira and walt nauta, they re residents in this judicial district. they have lawyers from washington, d.c. that s not the situation that you normally see with people who reside in the district where the court is located. they have better access to local lawyers. so with the repetition of this, it does begin to look maybe less like a strategy and more like a tactic because we know trump s legal team s tactic is delay. there is no factual defense that trump has offered to these charges. he s acknowledged he had the documents. the law is not on their side. it will be delay, delay, delay from here on out. joyce, do you think these charges put additional pressure on either de oliveira or others

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Transcripts for MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports 20240604 17:06:00

In the trump world, aides who might flip and cooperate with the government, or maybe they re not flipping. maybe they re not charged with anything, maybe they just know something. so, if this was a typical case, you would expect to see folks like this, to the extent they didn t plead guilty and cut a deal with prosecutors before they were indicted, this would be a real moment for them, when they understand they re looking at charges that carry penalties of up to 0 years in prison. for someone in their late 50s like de oliveira, that s a very serious sort of threat. because their lawyers come from within trump world, even though those lawyers do have an obligation to represent their clients and not the people who have procured them for their clients, i think increasingly we ll see questions. at some point the government may decide it needs to ask the court to make a record, to put the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports 20240604 17:04:00

The bond conditions that trump and nauta have imposed, specifically that they cannot speak to or communicate with a list of witnesses prepared by the department of justice about the facts of this case. notably, chris, the names listed from that list, donald trump, walt nauta and de oliveira. his lawyer was bombastic when leaving court making an announcement to the reporters in the scrum stating the doj needs to put their money where their mouth is. all right, joyce, we ll get to the money where the mouth is in a little bit. do you think de oliveira simply couldn t find legal counsel? is it more part of a legal strategy to delay the trial whether it works or not? what do you think is going on here? chris, this is the second defendant we ve seen in this case use precisely the same tactic, i can t find a local

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Transcripts for MSNBC Chris Jansing Reports 20240604 17:03:00

Happened in that courthouse today. reporter: de oliveira showed up with john irving, a d.c.-based lawyer representing him through this process thus far. they entered the courtroom where magistrate judge tore regs was preceding. the question was to determine if de oliveira obtained local counsel. they tried to reset the arraignment for august 25th which is the next major cifa hearing. judge torres said no. judge cannon wants to make sure this arraignment occurs prior to august 25th. to those wondering whether or not the case gets put out further, deolivera didn t enter a plea. however, he was released on a $100,000 personal surety bond. he has to surrender his expired american passport and abide by

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