i mean, it s a little bit comical. everybody who s ever met me can tell you i love all people, i love all cultures. you can tell by my past and all of my travels and adventures around the world. i was actually planning a road trip through africa when this happened. penny also opens up about the death of jordan neely saying, quote, i m deeply saddened by the loss of life. it s tragic what happened to him. hopefully, we can change the system that so desperately failed us. joe, i think i want to start with you here. okay. you have some experience traveling through the city. yes. as do many new yorkers who have been on the subway. your thoughts on this, on what neely has said or on what penny has said about the death of neely. penny s words are important, obviously, but it s the witnesses. those words are even more important. his lawyer is saying, and you re going to see video around this as well, that time and again during whole incident neely wasn t trying to kill a