kennel and let the dogs turn them loose. we have been through this immigration debate 86 under reagan. 2005 through 2000 actually 8 under george w. bush and again in 2013 under barack obama. each time the thing that killed it all off was amnesty, rewarding law breakers. martha: that left with us no productive movement forward in terms of dealing with immigration in this country. martha: let s put up a marist poll the question is do you favor or oppose congress providing a way for undocumented immigrants who are currently in the u.s. to gain legal citizenship if they learn english, pay fines and have a job to pays taxes. conservatives 72% say yes they are in favor of that. huh. you know, when i hear that martha, i heard the tease that carl rove is coming on. he and i had a discussion on this january 5th of 2004. it was the same argument then. and he tried to argue it wasn t amnesty if they pay a
you have the debate. that s the right way to do thsmght the other side of this we can have the rule of law. martha: isn t that what we are doing in the next six months in terms of having the debate about the people who are in the shadows as you say? no. this debate that s been ensued, it starts with amnesty. that s been the mistakes every time to lead with amnesty. you have to demonstrate border security and the restoration of the rule of law. when do you that it s not going to happen overnight. that sounds to me like what the president is asking for here. tell me what it isn t. i hope we have the votes in congress to pass that. martha: increase border security. he already has said he wants to throw out any criminal illegal aliens. obviously the crime being the second one after coming here illegally and to begin the process of dealing with the paper who are, quote, in the shadows and coming up with daca over the next six months. um-huh. it s not what i have said. what i hav
support of things like the reyes act. those are things you will see us focus on and talk about in the come days. martha: do we have a deal? iowa congressman steve king. good evening. good to see you tonight. good evening, martha. i m happy to hear sarah s voice on some of that that s my first question then. is that enough? is that something can you live with. oh, no. it helps when she is weighing in on this part and saying there are a lot of things that the president would like to get. i don t know that that ever gets me to amnesty, but it may get others there. and i understand the president, i believe on this. his heart kind of overruled his campaign promises and he served up daca to congress and threw it out and said well, i m going to keep my campaign promise this way. 8 months late with a six month delay and then congress it s the equivalent of throwing daca into congress to try to write a bill that satisfies the president is equivalent of throwing a cat into the
were brought here at the age, an average of 6 and a half years old who are here by no fault of their own, who only know one country, the united states of america. who are now becomes adults, should be allowed to have a path to legal citizenship if they kept their nose clean, serve in the military, get good grades in school, have a job, pay taxes and haven t committed crimes. they ought to be able to learn their citizenship in the united states. the american people believe that overwhelmingly. if congressman king had the courage of his convictions. he audited to sponsor a bill that says our object to is to remove every one of those people out of the country now because they have violated our laws. if he believes that let him bring it up and get a piece of legislation or resolution in congress and co-sponsors. martha: here is what he is saying that does resonate with a lot of people. we have tried it that way. we came up with the kind of prescription that you just discussed, you know,
as well this morning in the new york times about how all of this came to pass. the newspaper indicating that the president looked to his kwheef of staff, the former homeland security tect, john kelly, who, in turn, reached out to republican members of congress and came up with the solution of ending daca, and we re told it s going to be a phase-out, ending it but at the same time, giving six-month pause before people started being deported in order for the congress to come up with some type of a fix. we we re waiting a couple hours, going to hear from the attorney general just how all of this works. we are not expecting to hear from the president specifically on daca. we will speak with administration officials at 4:00 this afternoon.